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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:23 PM
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I just watched John Stewart massacre Henry Bonilla
on last nights Daily Show! Oh why does it take a comedian to do the work that our National Press should do....

That was clearly wonderful to watch....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:24 PM
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1. Because we live in fictitious times
and it takes a fictitious news network to cover the news
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:26 PM
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3. touche
nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:26 PM
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2. Just a guess, Jon Stewart wasn't sent any anthrax....yet.
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StandUpGuy Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:28 PM
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4. Stewart vs Koppel ...
Stewart said a lot in his nightline interview. He basically told Koppel to call "BS" when he hears it coming from a think tank goon.

Well Stewart put his money where his mouth was and called the first repug on his show since the interview on his BS.

Another deer in the headlights moment.

The Repub slime ball came on to try and be "The friendly Republican" and within 30 seconds Stewart made him look like a slithering reptile incapable of an original thought.

Go Jon !
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:29 PM
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5. massacre? far from it
I watched that repeat based on what I read here. Stewart was more pc then anything else. Yes, he politely told the repuke his facts were wrong but to say he massacred him is beyond a stretch.

The minute Stewart gets the balls to call him out for the evil, vile piece of shit that he is, will be the time to use words like "massacre".
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:41 PM
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6. I totally disagree.
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 08:41 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
Stewart revealed the facts and let them speak for themselves. Unnecesarily stooping to namecalling by 'call(ing) him out for the evil, vile piece of shit that he is' would not have been more persuasive.
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:56 PM
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10. Agree ...
Watched it Last night....

He spun the web and let Bonilla fly in...

Thanks for the reminder, they're replaying the show here in a few minutes and my Angels are losing 7-0, so time to flip the channels.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:17 PM
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12. I agree
Stewart was awesome. Bonilla looked like a fool. Best way to put these guys to shame is let them just talk.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:41 PM
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7. Pull your blinders pal
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 08:41 PM by trumad
he had Bonilla drop big drool.... Stewart set his ass up big time and only those informed could see it coming a mile away.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:52 PM
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9. heed your own words..."pal"
take YOUR blinders off.

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:43 PM
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8. "Comedians--Those sly artisans, those holy fools....."
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 08:47 PM by rainy
Here are parts of a great article about Artists: I think I saw my first version of it here at DU. It should be in the arcives.

Artistic Sign Language: Symbols of the Coming Bush Fall
By Bernard Weiner
The Crisis Papers

Feb. 14, 2003 - LOS ANGELES (crisispapers.org) -- Sign is symbol, symbol is sign. Consider:

Colin Powell goes to the United Nations so that the missile attacks on Baghdad and Basra can begin -- and, in the lobby of that grand building, Picasso's "Guernica" painting, which depicts the horrific results of the Nazi bombing of that Spanish town, is covered over prior to Powell's arrival. No use embarrassing the US by reminding folks of what's in store for Iraqi civilians.
John Ashcroft, in his police-state zeal, begins shredding the Constitution's Bill of Rights with its guarantees of due-process of law, and, early on, has the huge lobby statue of the Goddess of Justice draped and covered over because of its exposed breast. How appropriate to shroud Justice so that she can't see what's being done in her name.
First Lady Laura Bush cancels a poetry workshop at the White House because she suspects that a number of America's high-profile poets, in the sacred grounds of that seat of power, will raise the issue of the coming war with Iraq.
Did you notice the thread that unites these events? In all three cases, symbolic shrouds are placed over art, so that nobody will notice the bad things that are being done in American citizens' names.

But art knows. Art sees beyond, often before the general public is aware of what's going on. (Often before the artists themselves are conscious of what they're revealing.) Art points us in new directions that make us think and question.

To those inclined more to rigid-order mentality, art is a virus that needs to be stamped out, or, at the least, tightly controlled. ("When I hear the word culture," said Nazi leader Goebbels, "I reach for my revolver.")

It's all part of the so-called "cultural civil war."

Those who control the signs and symbols control the polity. Thus, minions are trotted out to denounce artists and their tendency to look for complexity, ironies, hypocrisies, hidden humor. To incipient fascists, the world is a Manichean one, divided into black and white, those who are Good and those who are Evil ("You're either for us or against us").

And since they are certain that God obviously favors their side, it follows that those in opposition -- or even (or especially) those who point the way to other visions of complex reality -- are part of the enemy forces and must be dealt with.

One problem with authoritarianism, whatever brand comes along -- Stalin's communism, or Hitler's fascism, or Islamic Talibanism, or whatever we're moving into in America right now -- is that it makes art more delicious and tempting. The public is not dumb and eventually comes to figure out that the "truth" being propounded by the frightened rulers does not match the world most citizens actually live in. And so they begin to seek out and support art and artists and, most of all, comedians -- those sly artisans, those holy fools, that can shake the foundations of power with a well-aimed dart.

Musicians, playwrights, poets, painters, sculptors, dancers, novelists, filmmakers, online satirists, comics -- everything these artists do in an authoritarian society comes to be seen by the public in the light of the repression visited from above.

Art has power. Art unmasks. Art tells lies in the service of truth. (Whereas governments lie in order to conceal truth.)

The more lies authoritarian governments tell their citizens, the more a sub rosa consciousness bubbles up from the culture's artists and then from its ordinary citizens. It's a slow-growing and, at times, dangerous movement -- which is why the forces of reaction try so hard to stomp on it -- but it is an amazingly strong and vital and resilient force.

Because totalitarian governments rest on fake foundations, when those regimes fall, they fall with amazing quickness and ferocity. One day there's a wall, the next day it's torn down and the celebrations begin. One day there is officially sanctioned art, the next day those huge statues are toppled. One day, the culture arbiters and censors are in control, the next day they are in disgrace -- or in jail.

Americans, still gripped by fear from 9/11/01, have tended to be in a state of animated numbness, putting up little resistance to the machinations of the authoritarian rulers. Similarly, out of great sympathy for the post-9/11/01 United States, various nations around the world bowed to the wishes of the Bush government.

Bush&Co., meeting little resistance, interpreted this relative lack of opposition as full support for their programs, foreign and domestic. And so they've continued to want more, tighten the screws more, reach and then over-reach for more. Their motto and guiding principle seems to be: "We can't be stopped, so let's just go take it all."

Suddenly, though, Bush&Co. are running into overt opposition. Their allies abroad are telling them -- to their face -- that current American policies are mad, wrong, dangerous. More and more conservative allies at home are warning the Bush Administration that their dash toward imperial rule abroad and draconian Constitution-shredding at home is a violation of what America stands for, and will bring the United States (and, given the economic interweavings between nations, much of the world as well) nothing but disaster.

The current US rulers will not alter their course. It's war with Iraq, full speed ahead and to hell with the rest of you -- especially ignorant "old Europe," and American dissidents at home. It's a proposed extension of the so-called USA Patriot Act, to give the federal government even more martial-law-like police powers in controlling the society -- the "cover" is hunting for terrorists, of course -- and to hell with the protections guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.

These Bush&Co. leaders are so arrogant, so rude, so greedy and power-hungry, so taken with themselves as God's messengers and as the world's only Superpower, so convinced they are right in the tunnel-vision black-and-white world they inhabit, that it's clear their days are numbered. It may take a bit longer to build to critical mass -- and there is going to be death and destruction and persecution while that momentum is being built up -- but when the time for their fall arrives, it's going to be quick and nasty. And we'll finally all wake up from this nightmare that has crushed our economy, diminished our moral light in the world, disgraced our beloved Constitution and country.

And at the vanguard of this movement away from the shadow America and back into the light will be our poets, our comedians, our painters, our playwrights, our novelists, and so on -- "dangerous" artists all, even when they're not political. They simply see too much, too clearly.

A toast to their hungry vision.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:15 PM
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11. A Toast to you , rainy, for the post of the Day
sending crabs/lobsters, wine, and ribs from Tony Romas...
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:22 PM
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13. Best article I've read in a long time
I've not read Weiner before. Great work.
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