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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:18 AM
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Even Newsmax knows Bush is going down
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pbg Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:20 AM
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1. No! You can't make me go there!
I don't want to be forced into taking another shower today...
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:26 AM
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4. Basically they know he's going to get his ass kicked in
a debate with a senate veteran like Kerry.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 02:44 AM
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18. again its lowering the bar for shrub, so that...
as long as he doesn;t defecate himself on camera, they will announce he's won the debate...been there, done that in 2000
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:26 AM
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5. I was planning on taking a shower in about 10 minutes anyway so here:
Here are the first 4 paragraphs:

Pollsters and researchers who study voting patterns have indicated that the country is pretty evenly divided between John Kerry supporters and President Bush loyalists. Winning the election, they say, will depend on the number of so-called independent voters who can be persuaded to vote for one candidate or the other.

There are 21 states considered battleground or toss-up states that are not consistently Republican or Democratic in their voting patterns. The most critical ones are those that control double-digit electoral votes, like Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Arizona, Minnesota, Washington, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin. These are the states that will determine the outcome.


Analysts also point out that independent voters are non-ideological, and less concerned about political and policy issues than they are with the candidate’s image. Non-partisan voters primarily want to establish a “comfort level” with a candidate before giving him their votes. Their attitude is strangely similar to that of the mainstream news media, whose approval seems to be dependent only on whether a candidate is “hot” or not.

In my judgment, President Bush has a serious liability in winning the votes of these non-aligned voters: his poor speaking ability. It has become a veritable albatross around his neck.

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:24 AM
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2. Now if he loses he has an
excuse..his diction. When he won, it was cause he "spoke in ordinary language". Sheesh
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:24 AM
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3. He He...
concentrating on his lack of speakin' abilities..That's just the tip of the iceberg!

I like this closing sentence though...

"At debate time this fall, no matter how well prepared the President on the issues, no matter how knowledgeable about his agenda, he is going to be in trouble as soon as he opens his mouth."
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VoteDemocratic2004 Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:57 AM
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12. I love that part of the article
As soon as he opens his mouth...gee I wonder why? :shrug:
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:27 AM
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6. I watched Bush deliver a speech the other day
and he literally looked like he shrank in size. I thought to myself, "He looks terrible. He does not look presidential at all." (Not that he ever did, of course, but really looked awful that day).

This author appears to agree:

"Although the substance of the speech was solid, the unsatisfactory delivery makes him appear less than presidential, less a statesman, and more like a semi-literate person suddenly thrust into the spotlight."
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:29 AM
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7. ...article shows well how the non-partisan world views Bush.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:31 AM
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8. The article comments on his wretched speaking ability
"In my judgment, President Bush has a serious liability in winning the votes of these non-aligned voters: his poor speaking ability. It has become a veritable albatross around his neck.

A company marketing a popular educational vocabulary program used to advertise on radio with the slogan, “People judge you by the way you speak.” If there is any truth to this claim, it is one that Bush should have taken to heart years ago before entering public life. A recent speech to the National Urban League in Detroit demonstrates all the poor mannerisms on display. These poor rhetorical habits appear whether the president is delivering a formal, prepared speech which he reads, or simply during impromptu comments that he uses in a press conferences. Although the substance of the speech was solid, the unsatisfactory delivery makes him appear less than presidential, less a statesman, and more like a semi-literate person suddenly thrust into the spotlight.

For example, Bush has an aversion to putting final “g’s” on present participles. Thus he says, “We’re askin’ if every child can read.” Or, “We’re makin” progress.” “When I was runnin’ for president,” “We’re sayin’ to kids,” “You heard me talk about ownin’ your own home, “and “What I’m tellin’ ya....” I didn’t hear one final “g” throughout the entire speech.

Then there’s the unfortunate contractions: “Get them outta here,” “We’re gonna be involved,” “We gotta make sure,” “I’ve seen ‘em under pressure,” and “...on the face ‘a’ the earth.” The speechwriter cannot have written these into the speech. It’s Bush’s delivery that is at fault."
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:42 AM
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9. Most illuminating. And isn't it funny that, when the author singled out
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 12:43 AM by calimary
four presidents as being among our most powerful, effective, intelligent, and commanding, three of them were DEMOCRATS: FDR, Kennedy, and Clinton. Reagan was in there, too.

I, for one, yearn to hear NO MORE of that obnoxious, repulsive, idiotic twang. I woke up the other day to the sound of droning, grating buzz-saws at the construction site next door. Or so I thought. It was actually bush making a speech on TV - we'd fallen asleep the night before with the TV still on.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:54 AM
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10. It's absolutely impossible for me
to watch or listen to him talk without grimacing in pain. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me.
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MI Cherie Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:59 AM
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13. Same here, except
nails on a chalkboard do not bother me a fraction as much!
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 03:57 AM
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20. Me either
he actually repulses me, he almost makes me physically ill. :puke:
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:56 AM
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11. they're setting us up for the debate again
saying Kerry is skillful and Bush is not so when Bush doesn't drool, the press declares him the winner.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 01:10 AM
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14. Yes, I can't take that again, the press pimping Bush* to us!

Telling us he wins debates when he barely strings words together against an opponent who is prepared and able to cite facts while speaking. Just repeating "We've turned the corner" or "We've made America safer" doesn't get it, especially when there's no evidence either statement is true!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 01:29 AM
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17. This Time Low Expectations Won't Work...
Amazingly insightful for NewsMuck...I'm surprised they put it out knowing us "pinkos" would surely seize on it.

In 2000, Bunnypants got a big, big pass on his inability to articulate or speak on his feet. Watching the brainstem attempt to speak is painful for someone like myself whose spent years learning the language and how to articulate it. It's even worse when he goes "off script"...and many times the most hillarious (check Letterman each night for the latest faux pas).

He was an unknown...something new, fresh, different...compared to Gore who'd been around for 8 years and was painted as everything stale and boring...a lot of people voted for Bunnypants not for his leadership or anything more than they wanted something different than Clinton/Gore Pepsi/Coke...so on and so on.

This time the game is almost 180 degrees different. The boy king now has to run on a record...and 4 years of being in the public eye. His bastardization of the language is no longer "cute", but points, along to his admitting he doesn't read newspapers and the highly controlled world he operates in...shows he's either a puppet doing a poor job or a poor leader without a clue. Either way, not a pretty picture.

Long ago the GOOP decided to run this election on fear as the only thing they could win on, and fear it will be. Shooting their wad on the terror alert trigger this week is an example and yet another overplay...one of many. Finally, the teflon on his assholiness is vanishing quickly and I can't wait for the obvious contrast/comparisons that will take place in a debate.

First, I only expect one...no more, and on Bunnypant's turf...but Kerry should be expecting that and will be prepared. Like Bunnypants, the media has set low expectations on Kerry. I was surprised how bowled over they were by his speech at the DNC. Yes, a marvelous speech, but not something I wouldn't have expected of a man of that level of experience and sophistication. I guess nuance means little in a soundbite world.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 01:16 AM
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15. The article has a point

Tony Blair is every bit as much a member of the BFEE as *. (OK,
that's a bit of a stretch, but he is evil)

If Tony was a born again and running instead of shrub... Kerry
would be in trouble.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 01:19 AM
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16. Tony is 'born again' actually.
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 01:23 AM by plastic_turkeys
Asked by Mr Margolick if he had discussed religion with Mr Bush, the Prime Minister said: "I can't say it's something we've discussed, but it's something we share."

In another profile, published in the Times, Mr Blair is recorded telling his staff that he wants to end his television address with "God bless you". His colleagues, including Mr Campbell, object, with one saying it would sound to viewers like "chaplains pushing stuff down their throats".

Mr Blair hit back by telling his staff: "You are the most un-Godly lot."

Elsewhere in the article Mr Blair describes how he is ready to "meet his Maker" and justify his decision to go to war.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/05/05/nblur05.xml
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 03:51 AM
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19. ...like holding up a mirror to himself
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 03:51 AM by radfringe
bush*'s "new improved" re-packaging of himself includes the sound-bite "...results matter..."

on the economy - what might have been a short lived down-turn in the economy has turned into a long drawn out sluggish 'recovery'
(side-note: one of our larger local employers - Techniglass - announced their closing yesterday -- 700 employees got their layoff notices yesterday)
results matter

Federal Deficit: setting new records every day
results matter

Osama Bin-Laden: still out there
results matter

Iraq: no end in sight
results matter

terror attacks: CODE ORANGE
results matter

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