Alan Keyes to hold rally in Chicago today for Senate seat

Alan Keyes in Illinois Wednesday

August 3, 2004
RenewAmerica staff

Republican activists will be holding a rally Wednesday to welcome Alan Keyes to Illinois. All supporters of Dr. Keyes are invited to attend.

WHEN: Wednesday, Aug. 4, at 1:30 p.m. Central Time.

WHERE: Union League Club (outside), 65 W. Jackson Boulevard, Chicago, Illinois.

At 2:00 p.m. Central Time, Dr. Keyes will meet with the Illinois Republican State Central Committee. The committee is expected soon afterward to announce its nominee for the Senate seat being vacated by Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL).
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This is getting hilarious!

He'll run if they want him to! They'll find a home that he has ownership in.. a family member we hadn't heard about.. or they'll simply change the rule. AND if the Democrats object to changing the rule, then they'll accuse us of being unfair. Believe me, the GOP has considered ALL of this. The media hasn't informed us HOW he's going to do it.. but I hope people tell Keyes to fuck off. He's another Michael Huffington, but at least Huffington lived in the area for a little while before filing.

I have to laugh when I hear Illinois Republicans talking about Barack Obama being too "extremist" for Illinois...and then they choose Alan Keyes. Oh, the irony. :-)

a pug opens his sphincter and talks about Obama: he's too far outside the mainstream for the average Illinois voter


unlike Keyes, who favors summary execution for parking meter violations

Article I. Section 3. Clause 3. No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

Under Illinois law, he doesn't even have to move to Illinois until September 5 in order to register by October 5 so he can vote for himself.

He must be a resident 30 day before the filing deadline, AUGUST 26TH, which is 22 days from now, hence he's 8 days late.

Almost all states have residency requirements like Illinois, even though the Constitution has a vague residency requirement that could be interpretted as implying that he could move to Illinois on November 1st, but, IMHO, when considered with sanity states that you can't represent a state in the senate, yet live in another one.

And the Scotus has determined thrity days establishes residency for registering to vote.

He doesn't have to be a resident at the time of filing. Only at the time of the election under the law.

If it were for a state position, such as the seat Barack Obama currently holds, the state law would apply.

I think it's moot, though, as Topinka wants Barthwell and Topinka will get what Topinka wants. Keyes doesn't have a clue that he will be playing to Topinka, not the committee. If he doesn';t suck up to her, he will have no shot at getting the nomination.

It all depends upon how much research Keyes has done about the IL GOP.

Who the hell was Rufus King? He was a leading moderate Federalist from Massachusetts in 1787 when the Constitution was written. He was already planning on moving to New York state when he attended the Philadelphia Convention that wrote our Constitution.

The Commonwealth of Massachusetts had finagled a huge chunk of undeveloped land out of underpopulated New York, a mostly antifederalist state under the Articles of Confederation. Massachusetts sold the land to its leading citizens mostly and, under the compromise, left New York to administer the lands without any of the revenues from the sale.

When King realized that he was gonna be too far down in the Bay State's pecking order to become one of its Federalist sentators, he changed his residence to New York, where a brief conflict in the state legislature left NY unable to elect any senators. Altho NY was mostly antifederalist, the antifeds were frequently outmanuevered by the federalist party (these were informal parties and usually called "interests" instead of "parties" at the time), and so top feddy Alexander Hamilton was able to push his buddy Rufus thru in a compromise vote.

I'm sure quite a few New Yorkers at the time complained that somehow, in the first Congress, Massachusetts ended up with three senators. Ever since New Yorkers have been absolutely adament about ensuring that only true New Yorkers represent them in the US Senate.

for me to get there in time

I'll be there at his first public rally, though, and DOUBLE its size!

What good would it do to go? To heckle Keyes? Plenty of time for that later.
God our local pubs are pathetic... Actually, NSMA, you'd love it here!

:-)

Wish I could, I would love to tell that asshole a thing or two about Illinois Democrats!

1. I counted 31 Keyes supporters. There was a smattering of hand made Keyes signs, but most stood to the left of the door empty-handed.

2. To the right of the door was an approximately equal number of reporters, camera crews, and supporters of other candidates. I saw Oberweiss buttons, but no others.

3. The Keyes group wasn't especially freeperish (as we picture them). More like the crazy uncles you keep locked in the attic, or the weird neighbors you tell your kids to stay away from. Not Bubba-types, just strange... No wonder you never hear people expressing a desire for a "piece of elephant".

4. There were 3 black Keyes supporters among the 31. They had blue & white tee shirts that said IACC (?) with a picture of an elephant. Haven't a clue who they were.

5. Several people passing by made comments to the assemblage such as "carpetbagger". These comments made observers smile and were ignored by the Keyes folk.

That is all...

buy you a drink the next du get together--when ever that is......

Why else would an African American support an Uncle Tom/sell-out like Alan Keyes?

:shrug:

I don't think its very proper to call a black person an Uncle Tom/sell-out just because they're a Republican or conservative.

I have no use whatsoever for the likes of Alan Keyes, Walter Williams, Thoman Sowell, or JC Watts.

Republicans have EVERY RIGHT to do so, without being demonized. These statistical aberrations are no different from the MAJORITY of whites, who have supported Dubya, Bob Dole, Daddy Bush, Reagan, and EVERY REPUBLICAN Presidential candidate since the 1960s. The last Democrat to win a majority of the white vote was Lyndon Johnson!

Besides, it may be quite rational for these few African-Americans to support Keyes, and Dubya too. Maybe they each have over $200,000 in annual income and don't care about anything or anybody else, just like the plutocrats who control the Republican Party.

Does any white person have the right to call an African-American an Uncle Tom?

IMHO.

It might be true, but not "proper"??? Wasn't it Watt's father who said "I don't know why my son's a republican! African Americans supporting republicans is like chickens supporting Colonel Sanders"????

:kick::kick::kick:

What the hell's the matter with those Illinois Republicans? Don't they want to beat Obama?


:evilgrin:

thank you

thank you very much

instantaneous, btw

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe it! Too much!!!

And, as others have noted, his deadline has already passed.

. . .that carpetbagging JACKOFF?!!!

or, just plain jag

or the men's room

just axin

Considering the current GOP meltdown . . .

Note to other participant: Bring track shoes, the natives are restless...LOL!

And guarding it.

:-)

I hope he can match that 4% of the vote he always gets in the republcian primaries.

two losing presidential bids and a losing senate run in Maryland. Now this.

Like Hillary moved to NY ??

and the good people in the State of New York VOTED for her. Keyes is a hoot. Let him run. This is just another in a long line of examples of the Illinois GOP shooting themselves in the foot. What a freaking embarrassment these douche-bags are.

the same way Elizabeth Dole lives in North Carolina. She bought her mother's house. Her mother's died since then, so she now owns an empty house.

farmers and most republicans. Look for him to run on God, gay marriage, prayer in school, 10 commandments, anti-sin, Janet Jackson's breast, etc.

I can't wait

not as much fun as Dikkka, but will be sweet, until the first few polls roll out, showing him at least THIRTY points behind, if not more

he`s an outsider..the republican party has just insulted them.

The repukes will lose alot of their base as well, racist bigots!

Remember, David Hale...the right wing klansman/lawyer is based out of East Peoria (it was one of his "disciples" that went on a shooting spree in '99) and Southern Illinois is more like Mississippi than California.

Obama has done a lot of legwork in this area and still his support is weaker even in the Democratic bastions of downstate (where Paul Simon came from) than in the north. In between are the pitchfork holders...the Repugnian bread & butter area, but one that can barely tolerate a woman, yet alone a black.

This party gets more divided every day...and a joy to watch.

Run Alan Run!!! I wanna see how he handles a debate against Obama!

You think they'll give him a spot at the GOP convention now?

I can't wait for the RW spin defending this guy moving to Il to run.

Time to break out the lines they used on Hillary.

that would be fanTASTicco

he's so fricking nuts

he makes Pat Buchanan look like Noam Chomsky

Sorry to go off topic, but those who are interested in this race may be able to answer this question which has obsessed me since Mike Ditka decided not to run.

Someone on this board said he'd heard that Mike Ditka has paid a year's air fare for a fetus in a jar that a pro-life group uses as its mascot. The fetus gets its own seat when the group travels somewhere. Sort of Frequent Fetus Flier Miles.

I MUST know whether this rumor is true. I am completely obsessed with knowing. It is so completely absurd, I must know. Please, someone, tell me IS IT TRUE IS IT TRUE?

I dearly hope it is true

try snopes, or my favorite, cause it's funny:

Cecil Adams, the Straight Dope

ever heard of him?

he's from chicago

great bathroom reader paperbacks

http://www.straightdope.com/

I love this site:

"Search the Straight Dope archive, containing all worthwhile human knowledge. Updated daily!"

see?

E-mail him telling him you heard of this (puke) wonderful thing he has done and want to know how you can contribute. If it's true, and as a self-described ultra-ultra-ultra conservative, I think Mike would be a good bet it is, he WILL respond with the details. Then post it here for our "enjoyment".

that's the best idea I've heard in awhile

I doubt he has a site, though

certainly, he has nothing to do with it, as he's a low grade moron, surviving on memories physical prowess and intimidation

what a bully

Just thought I'd like to remind everybody.

Keyes is an eloquent and skilled public speaker. There is very little I could ever agree with this man.

Allen Keyes is a piss poor one on on debater. I doubt he could get 3% of the votes in Illinois.

He'd do fairly well. It would be a tossup between him and Jerry Kohn for second place.

Barthwell would run a distant third.

Just thought I'd like to remind everybody.

Yeah, that's something to get excited about. :eyes:

does anyone really think that the republican crackers-rich and poor-are going to vote for a out of state carpetbagger negro/n-??????. just how badly is the republican party fallen in Illinois that there is not one person who they think can beat obama is another "black".
i expect the republicans will not vote for alan because he is not from illinois,disgust with the party,and because he is black. since illinios is not a straight ticket vote-bush may get votes but alan won`t-or the voters may just stay home..
i really can`t believe it............................................

They need someone who has no chance of winning so when Obama pounds him, it doesn't look bad. So, they grab a wingnut like Keyes, (Dr. my ass!) and have him fall on his sword for the party.

This is already a lost cause, so they are running a lost cause against a sure winner.
The Professor

This way none of the locals are tainted by this defeat!

getting out of state political celebraties to come run for office in your state.

there is no Oligarchy in this country.

:silly:

what an asshole.

and CNN/FAUX?M/MSGOP calling Keyes the winner of the election, and by extention, Illinois going for Shrub? Or less than 24 hours?

but we in Illinois know better.

I'll be surprised if they don't pick Barthwell. the overtures to Keyes are meant to placate the members of the committee who are more conservative. The committee itself is overwhelmingly moderate when compared to Keyes' over the top rhetoric.

a "large black woman"..that may sound racist but face the fact-she`s not going to play in most of illinois. i`ve lived here in this state for 57 years..i know these people and they are not going to vote for any of them. ryan had a better chance than any of these people...

a black woman? a snowballs chance in a central illinois bean field in august.. the republicans should have stuck with ryan..

I want it to be Keyes!

Barthwell frees up Obama so he can help Democrats in other races. Races where little known Democrats are up against incumbent Republicans for seats in the House.

I know the entertainment value of a Keyes candidacy would be incredibly high, but look at the bigger picture.

I'd love for Obama to have to "work" a little, not as though he hasn't or won't. A Keyes candidacy could help get some interest here in Pleasant Valley Sunday...get more people interested in the local races as they see the sham on the state and federal levels.

Listening to the local GOOPers, they're not just restless, they're getting downright canabalistic and it's gonna be soon. Keyes is being forced on the state party who is forcing their hand-picked puppet on the rank & file (the Repugs here love Steve "Pre Fire-Sale" Rauschenberger) and are pissed at Topika and getting edgy with Rove & Bunnypants. Many feel embarassed and I see Keyes as another nail in the coffin.

I'm spoilin' for an Obama/Keyes debates...the contrasts would be incredible!

Cheers!

I'm dying to know!

Did you find some information I didn't know about? I thought Keyes was flying in today.

I thought the party is supposed to make white smoke and a candidate appear tomorrow afternoon.

Maybe they still don't know.

the SCC did intervue both he and Barthwell.

No announcment yet. A Barthwell supporter on the SCC stated he would come back tomorrow with lots of Barthwell supporters if they do not reach a decision today.

developing...

Like the one in my sig.

;-)

another AA takes the stage w/Chimpy during his campaign through Illinois.

She's the most powerful Republican in Illinois right now, which admittedly is not saying much.

It's Barthwell.

I believe this move of having Keyes fly out was nothing but a charade to placate the conservatives on the committee.

Fortunately.

A Barthwell candidacy frees up Obama to hopefully help out Democrats in lots of districts, helpijng to remove some of teh more vile representatives in the House, my own current representative included!

I'd think that the National GOP wouldn't want anything to do with this race. All they will be doing by pushing a "celebrity" candidate is increase Obama's national profile. The more notoriety that the IL Senate race gets, the more press that Obama will get.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040715_934.html

Memo Criticizes Potential Senate Candidate for 'Lewd' Behavior While With Bush Administration

The Associated Press

A potential Republican candidate for the Senate seat from Illinois where the party's nominee withdrew over sex club allegations engaged in "lewd and abusive behavior" while she served as a top official in the White House drug policy office, an internal inquiry found last year.

In front of her staff, Andrea Grubb Barthwell made repeated comments about the sexual orientation of a staff member and used a kaleidoscope to make sexually offensive gestures, according to the findings of a March 19, 2003, "hostile workplace memorandum" prepared by drug policy office staff. The Associated Press obtained the memorandum.
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Republicans have been scrambling for a candidate since Jack Ryan dropped out of the race last month over allegations in his divorce papers that he took his wife, "Boston Public" actress Jeri Ryan, to sex clubs before they split up.
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The report says her staff had "the highest regard for Dr. Barthwell's credentials and knowledge, but ... almost uniformly stated their fear and discomfort with what they consider to be unusual behavior patterns and displays of temper."
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"Dr. Barthwell made reference to this staff member sitting on men's laps. A kaleidoscope pointed upward was placed on a chair by Dr. Barthwell as the staff member was about to sit down," it said.
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"Dr. Barthwell suggested that the staff member would want to cut the cake available for the gathering because the knife was 'long and hard' and he might 'enjoy handling it.' When the cake was cut, Dr. Barthwell referred to the pieces as 'most' or 'beefy' and she said to the staff member, 'I know you like it big and meaty.'"

They KNOW they're going to lose that race. Having Keyes to oppose Obama will allow Keyes to spout off all kinds of BS under the presumption that he's an alternative voice for the black community. This is strictly a publicity move. If the Republicans had integrity, they would have run Oberweiss who actually RAN in the primary and still wanted to run.

People like to accuse the likes of Keyes and Clarence Thomas as being Uncle Tom Niggers. Well, I think this is unaccurate. You see, when Uncle Tom was ordered to whip and beat his fellow man, he refused. These people take up the task with a joyful glee. They are like the overseers on that hideous Louisiana plantation. They have black skin, white minds and black hearts.

Key's wants to execute EVERYBODY that doesn't follow his god's law... whatever THAT is.

Why do people have to talk like this about black conservatives?

It disgusts me that people have to always pigeon hole blacks as democrats and if they're not democrats they're some sort of race traitors or uncle toms or sellouts or whatever.

He doesn't give a damn about what he's spouting. And if he thought being a liberal would have made him more money, he damn well would've been a liberal.

On ABC 7 in Chicago today:
Kevin Roy: When Pat Buchanan suggested on fox news channel in march of 2000 that he run for senate in New York, Keyes responded "I deeply resent the destruction of federalism represented by Hillary Clinton's willingness go into a state she doesn't even live in and pretend to represent people there, so I certainly wouldn't imitate it." That is from Alan Keyes three years ago. Now, he is scheduled to meet with the republican central committee at 2:00 this afternoon. They are expected to announce the final decision sometime later today.

http://www.dailykos.com/

Of course, my money's on Barthwell. The fix is in and she's a close personal friend of Topinka.

I want to know and I want to know now! Keyes for Senate!

You gotta believe that race was the predominant factor in choosing that kook. The Repugnicants or sooooo shallow and transparent.

Keys earned a Ph.D. in government studies from Harvard. I wonder what his dissertation was about?... "The Dark Ages or the Good Old Days?" :dunce:

But I'd still like to see debates between Obama and Keyes. Keyes has a lot to answer to:

Keyes believes that Christianity best represents American ideals.

He believes that there is presently a moral crisis in America and that the Declaration of Independence is more then just as assertion of rights; he reminds people that the document states the ultimate source of that authority is the Creator.

Keyes is known as a strong opponent of legalized abortion. He opposes it because he believes that the denying of a life is an infringement of a fundamental unalienable right.

Keyes believes that the income-tax is "a slave tax, inherently incompatible with freedom". He states that we need to abolish the income tax not only for economic reasons but also for moral reasons.

Keyes opposes Affirmative Action programs because he believes they no longer enforce the fundamental principal that all men are created equal.

Keyes has had a hard time establishing credibility. First because he was labeled Ronald Reagan’s token black appointed only to defend the policy of apartheid and oppose sanctions on South Africa.

Keyes has had difficulty managing his past personal and campaign finances. While running for past offices he has paid himself a salary of over $100,000. While ending his 1996 campaign he had over $350,000 in campaign debt. He was also still collecting money when his campaign had already ended. When asked about these problems he has refused to comment hurting his credibility even more. That is a tough pit for him to dig his way out of.

against Obama!

I can't wait any longer!

but they are still cloistered in their meeting hall.

So we could know tonight? I had almost given up on the idea that they would decide before tomorrow.

I'll stay up as long as it takes!

I hope they do pick him. We can use the nomination to launch a "Let's talk about Leo Strauss" campaign. BRING IT ON

By Robert Locke
FrontPageMagazine.com | May 31, 2002

IN CONTEMPORARY American intellectual life, there is only one school of conservative intellectuals that has taken root in academia as a movement. They are the Straussians, followers of the late Leo Strauss (1899-1973). The hostile New Republic referred to Straussians as "one of the top ten gangs of the millennium." Strauss is an ambiguous, sometimes even troubling, figure, but he is essential to the conservative revival of our time and he offers the intellectual depth we are so desperately in need of. As a crude measure of his importance for those readers who continue to believe that philosophical matters are of no practical importance, consider the following list of his students or students of his students: Justice Clarence Thomas; Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork; Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz; former Assistant Secretary of State Alan Keyes; former Secretary of Education William Bennett; Weekly Standard editor and former Quayle Chief of Staff William Kristol; Allan Bloom, author of The Closing of the American Mind; former New York Post editorials editor John Podhoretz; former National Endowment for the Humanities Deputy Chairman John T. Agresto; and, not meaning to class myself with this august company but in the interests of full disclosure, myself.

The great significance of Strauss for mainstream conservatives is that his is the deepest philosophical analysis of what is wrong with liberalism. Technocratic, legalistic, and empirical criticism of liberalism is all very well, but it is not enough. He believes that contemporary liberalism is the logical outcome of the philosophical principles of modernity, taken to their extremes. In some sense, modernity itself is the problem. Strauss believed that liberalism, as practiced in the advanced nations of the West in the 20th century, contains within it an intrinsic tendency towards relativism, which leads to nihilism. He first experienced this crisis in his native Germany’s Weimar Republic of the 1920s, in which the liberal state was so ultra-tolerant that it tolerated the Communists and Nazis who eventually destroyed it and tolerated the moral disorder that turned ordinary Germans against it. A Jew, he fled Germany in 1938. We see this problem repeated today in the multiculturalism that sanctions the importation into the West of Moslem fundamentalists whose foremost aim is the destruction of the Western society that makes that tolerance possible, and in an America so frightened of offending anyone that it refuses to carry out the basic duty of any normal state to guard its own borders.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1233

Kevin Roy: When Pat Buchanan suggested on fox news channel in march of 2000 that he run for senate in New York, Keyes responded "I deeply resent the destruction of federalism represented by Hillary Clinton’s willingness go into a state she doesn't even live in and pretend to represent people there, so I certainly wouldn't imitate it." That is from Alan Keyes three years ago. Now, he is scheduled to meet with the republican central committee at 2:00 this afternoon. They are expected to announce the final decision sometime later today.

http://www.archpundit.com/archives/010189.html

Run, Alan, Run.

It sure makes the IL republican party look sorry if they can't even find a candidate who resides in the state. Keyes is a fanatic but well spoken, I will admit that. He's a pretty tough debater, even though the things he says are so far right, they border on falling off the edge of the world. Part of me hopes Keyes runs so Obama can trounce him, another part of me resents the idea that they would even consider brining such a lunatic to run for office in my home state. Andrewa Barthwell looks to be a loser too... I laugh at the pathetic condition of the IL republicans. They no longer have legs to stand on.

Would they seriously bankroll this thing? How seriously would they campaign for this?

Or would they let Alan baby fend for himself?

I doubt seriously if the national party would put much money into a Keyes campaign as he is not much liked by Bushco. I know for a fact he'd get almost no in state funding as the big money people who fund the IL GOP would never fund an out of stater in a million years.

idiotic ranting and spend whatever money he has raised in a few well timed commercials.If anyone here has seen Alan Keyes on his talk and shout show you will know what I mean.