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BloodyWilliam Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:20 PM
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What ARE Regular Guys?
From a previously posted and rather offensive diatribe talking about how most cops and firefighters are Bush supporters:

http://www.nationalreview.com/dunphy/dunphy200408030841.asp

<<Second, cops and firefighters are, if the women in the ranks will forgive the expression, Regular Guys. They drink beer, not wine, and certainly not French wine. They played football and baseball in high school, not lacrosse. Regular Guys think Al Sharpton is a fraud and Michael Moore (who pretends to be a Regular Guy) is a fool, and they think Ted Kennedy is a criminal. Regular Guys do not blame Secret Service agents (who are Regular Guys) for knocking them down on the ski slopes, especially when those agents are there to take bullets for them. And Regular Guys relate to and prefer the company of other Regular Guys; they do not invite people like Leonardo DiCaprio and Ben Affleck to their conventions.

Even with the piles of dough they're sitting on, both George Bush and Dick Cheney still come across as Regular Guys, the kind of men you might find hanging around the fire station or the detective squad room. And with his recent suggestion to Pat Leahy on how he might spend his idle time, the vice president climbed several notches on the Regular Guy scale. John Kerry, on the other hand, owing to his valorous service in Vietnam, might have been a Regular Guy years ago, but he surrendered his membership when he came home to join the Jane Fonda crowd and brand his former comrades as war criminals. And whatever tenuous grip he may have had on Regular Guy status since then was lost when he married his current wife. Old-fashioned notions of chivalry prevent me from offering my full opinion on her here, but Regular Guys do not under any circumstances marry women like Teresa Heinz Kerry.>>

So Regular Guys ONLY:

-drink beer
-play football or baseball
-Hang out with other "Regular Guys" like Bush and Cheney
-Hurl explitives at coworkers in situations where it certainly is not appropriate
-Offer back-handed insults to strong women hwile claiming "chivalry"

And Regular Guys NEVER:

-drink wine
-play lacrosse
-marry wealther, independent women
-Get angry when knocked down, for any reason
-Hang around celebrities

Um... who are these Regular Guy assholes?

I don't clain to be a Regular Guy (especially in all caps), but I don't think I'm unpatriotic, freakish, or effeminate in any way.

What am I as a regular guy?

-I drink whiskey and tea. Not at the same time, but neither beer nor wine ever really appealed to me.
-I'm not big on sports, but I'm not averse to tennis, volleyball, or anything else that doesn't require a whole lot of running.
-I'm not a verbal saint and I've said my fair share of explitives. When I hurt myself I tend to swear and get a bit short-tempered. But I don't tell subordinates, superiors, or coworker peers to fuck themselves when they say something I don't like.
-I wouldn't mind marrying a strong, intelligent woman like Teresa Heinz Kerry, as long as the love is there, and wouldn't find it a negative reflection on my masculinity in any way.
-I'd be cordial to most any celebrity (I can't promise I wouldn't swear at people like Michael Savage, Ann Coulter, or Newt Gingrich, but at least I'd be polite at it!), and I don't see why it's such a sin to be acquaintances with DiCaprio and Affleck. Hell, for all the hatred of DiCaprio, he WAS pretty good in Basketball Diaries and What's Eating Gilbert Grape.

Why do these right-wing jerks feel the need to insist that their validity as both men and human beings is defined by media stereotypes?

Is anyone else here a Regular Guy, or a regular guy? How about just a valid, mature person who should be taken seriously? If we drink whiskey, do we not get sloshed? If we get hit during rugby, do we not hurt like a bitch? If we meet a famous person, do we not ask for their autograph?

Well? Any other regular, irregular, Regular, or Proudly Different Guys out there?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:23 PM
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1. Regular guy here
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 04:24 PM by AngryAmish
I like football, dislike soccer (metric football) and mostly drink beer.

Oh, I have never asked a famous person for an autograph. That is just weak. (But then again I have never met Marvin Hagler, who is probably the only person I would ask for one).

Blue collar raised Chicago democrat here. And I like Italian beef.
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BloodyWilliam Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:27 PM
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3. Heh! Metric football!
Eh, I like mementos when it comes to celebrities. Hell, I still have a glossy photo autographed by Garret Wang of Star Trek Voyager, from the one Star Trek convention I went to. :)

I don't know who Marvin Hagler is, and since Warren Zevon died recently I can't get my most anticipated autograph either. :(

White collar raised Pennsylvania liberal.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 10:28 AM
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21. Don't know who Marvin Hagler is?!?
Greatest fighter of my lifetime. (Roy Jones Jr. is the best boxer but not the best fighter). Middleweight champion for about 11 years.

Lost (was stolen) his last fight. Moved to Italy. Became a movie star. Got out of the game with his wits - and his money. There is nothing to dislike about Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
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DaveFL99 Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:26 PM
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2. I guess I'm not a regular guy
I don't drink beer

I played lacrosse and worse yet squash

I'm definitely looking to marry wealth.
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BloodyWilliam Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:27 PM
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4. Don't look to marry wealth!
Think of it as a happy possible bonus to finding love.

You drink the sprite because it satisfies. Looking under the cap to find out you won a big screen TV is just a bonus. ;)
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:32 PM
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5. Guys who eat...
... a lot of prunes?

No... I'd hate to be called a "regular guy" because basically it is a nice way of calling someone a dumbass.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:33 PM
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6. I'm just me.
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 04:35 PM by rkc3
I can swear with the best of them and spend the day working with Vice Presidents and Directors of Fortune 1000 Companies and get along just fine with them.

I drink beer and watch football. I also take hikes with my kids and enjoy birdwatching and archery.

I know enough about cooking to impress all the women at the office and enough about last night's game to get by the water cooler.

I also have a college degree, work 60 hours a week, and appreciates my time off.

The idea of a regular guy is foreign to me. It's used by guys like Bush to insinuate that they know something about the way middle America lives - which is utter bullshit since he never worked a day in his life and still takes vacations like he has nothing to do at the office.

So the next time someone says Bush is just like us - ask him where his ranch is, about the last time he bought into a baseball team, or what private jet he uses is.
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pbg Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:35 PM
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7. I'm an irregular guy
but I take Metamucil, so that's OK.

:+

I can see them partially succeeding in portraying W as a 'regular guy' (even though he's a self-indulgent child of privilege who's been bailed out of every fuckup he's been in by his connections)--but DICK CHENEY? A regular guy? There isn't a NASCAR dad living who thinks Cheney is one of them!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:36 PM
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8. Highly Irregular
Detest mass-market American beer. Microbrews good. Wine good.
Don't want to have a beer with George Bush. Would rather pour a beer ON him.
All those team sports can just get cheneyed.
I'll get my exercise dancing, or riding my bike in the mountains.
I think powerful women rock!

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ASanders84 Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:37 PM
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9. Regular guys are of regular intelligence?
You can count me out.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:40 PM
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10. I'm reminded of this Onion article:
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ParisFrance Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:42 PM
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11. Answer
You're a regular guy if you can't speak correctly.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:44 PM
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12. Oh, please. Like the pasty, doughy slugs at NR know ANYTHING about...
"regular guys". They are the kind of men who make you recoil when you shake their soft, clammy hands.

Ben Affleck, while pretty, seems like a pretty regular guy to me. All the guys who fought for the union movement were regular guys.

I do all of the above-mentioned "regular guy" things - AND I loved F-911, Roger and Me, and I went to two anti-war events. And I'm no pacifist.

I was going to go on, but this topic is so stupid, I don't want to waste any more time on it.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:49 PM
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13. Right. "Regular Guys" Marry Women Like...
Pickles the Show Dog..



...with her excellent breeding!

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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:50 PM
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14. i thought i was 'regular' but i'm a effete snob
and i don't care:

football is stupid
baseball is pointless
professional sports are circuses to distract the masses
i like wine & only drink imported european vintages (hey they're just as cheap as american & taste better)
i don't find ignorant backwoods assholes charming or folksy
i think ben affleck seems like a regular guy compared to me
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:52 PM
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15. "Regular" guys are the guys who beat me up in junior high..
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 04:52 PM by Selwynn
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:54 PM
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16. jesus
national review

bunch of GIRLIE BOYS, remember?

I saw that and quit reading

you think any of them do ANY of that?

they all have blowup dolls of Phyllis Schlafly stuck to their bedroom walls

why even bother commenting on such idiotic propaganda?

national review?
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:01 PM
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17. "Regular guys" are the kind
I have always made a point to stay away from, they are usually sexist and illbred. I like a guy who is special and not part of the herd, but that's just me. :shrug:
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:03 PM
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18. stereotyes etc.

I drink American beer, have a 4x4 truck, which I actually do take offroad and get muddy, like to fish, sit on the couch in my shorts and fart while watching sports and hurling beer cans at the tv. I've been known to get in a fist fight at the local bar once or twice.

I respect my co workers, love and respect my wife and value her opinions, love and respect the environment and am nuts about puppies.
I love my country and fly the flag.

I guess I'm a pretty "regular" guy, the Metamucil certainly helps.

Oh yeah, how do I vote? DEMOCRATIC

My Politics? LIBERAL


Fuck Stereotypes!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:26 PM
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19. Personally I highly recommend
tea and whisky together. No milk, of course, and it can be the cheapest whisky you can get, but it's excellent for camping trips - why carry around the extra weight of the water in beer?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:37 PM
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20. I'm very regular.
Every morning, sometimes twice. But every morning without fail.

;-)
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 10:31 AM
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22. Do "regular guys" cheerlead at Andover?
Just wondering :hi:

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