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wwwunspunmediaorg Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:59 PM
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UN weapons inspector Scott Ridder...
I was on a different forum that got freeped, butone of the pictures the freeper posted had a picture of Scott Ridder saying that he was on trial for sexually assaulting a teenage girl. Is this true or just freeper BS?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:01 PM
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1. It's Scott Ritter, and it's
bullshit.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:02 PM
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2. Ritter was charged with something at some point
He addresses it in his book while not openly declaring what the charges were. The charges were dropped and the records sealed.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:10 PM
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3. Not quite
i think it was something involving solicitation of a minor. He was charged, charges were dropped, the record was sealed and the MYSTERIOUSLY the information about the sealed record was made public during the pre-invasion time period when Scott was a major voice of reason on the subject.

Scott seems to have dropped out of view since then.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:37 PM
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23. well he did just publish a book
Called Frontier Justice. He addresses the issue mentioned above though doesnt go into detail. Very good book. I recommend it.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:33 AM
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29. "Scott seems to have dropped out of view" NOT!
he was interviewed on the Guy James radio show yesterday. the show should be in the archives soon. www.theguyjamesshow.com
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:12 PM
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4. Is that where you learned of the spelunking
OReilly gave Franken?
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wwwunspunmediaorg Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:13 PM
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5. THanks for
clarifying the freeper smear.
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ermoore Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:17 PM
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6. 8 year-olds dude, 8 year-olds.
He met a minor online and arranged to meet her at a Burger King and then go have sex. It wasn't an 8 year-old, but it was a minor and therefore pretty terrible.
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:34 PM
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7. Is that true? do you have sources?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:36 PM
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8. it was a 16-year old girl
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:39 PM
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9. Damn...that hurts his credibility for me.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:25 AM
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26. Bullshit
He was setup by Ashcroft and there was nothing to it. If there was he would have been nailed.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 11:01 AM
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33. Yes.....a 16 year old girl allegedly.......not an 8 year old......sheesh.
The story was all over DU......someone probably has the archive.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:53 PM
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10. Please enlighten us with your evidence ~Otherwise I suggest you keep
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 04:58 PM by Bandit
your bullshit to yourself. The charges were dismissed and the case sealed. I guess we convict people before any hearing or trial now on this forum. You people need to get a grip.
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ermoore Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:10 PM
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13. Please read the link in the post right below mine ~ Otherwise I suggest
you keep your fondness for this particular pedophile to yourself.

Dude, read the link. He didn't get convicted, but it's pretty obvious the man was trying to do something pretty wrong. Just because he's an outspoken * critic doesn't mean he can't also be a pretty terrible person.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:30 PM
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14. you said it was an 8-year old girl, but it wasn't.
read the whole story. it wasn't a 16-year-old girl, nor a 14-year-old girl, either. it was cops pretending to be a 16- or 14-year-old girl. Ritter's behavior strikes me as suspicious, but legally he's not guilty. arrests are not convictions. this WAS clearly a setup. the cops were trying to lure someone into committing a crime. as such, they undoubtedly were setup with cameras and recorders to gather all the possible evidence. yet, they still couldn't make a prosecutable case. otherwise Ritter would be in jail.

get real folks. Ritter didn't try to molest an 8/14/16-year old girl. what really happened was that the cops set a trap which didn't quite succeed.







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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:43 PM
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:28 AM
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27. "The cops"?
or the "Justice" dept trying to smear him to shut him up?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:39 AM
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30. Uh...Dude...do you fall for every smear job the Crime Family cranks out?
Wake up Buddy, er..Dude!
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:45 PM
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17. Vague reference to something
Look at all the people with low post counts. Amazing!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:01 PM
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21.  An undercover agent who represented herself online as a 16 yearold.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:08 PM
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11. Ritter has twice been arrested for solicitation of a minor..
But it's funny how his apologists say the charges are made up. Here's my source: http://stacks.msnbc.com/local/wnyt/m264375.asp?cp1=1

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/22/ritter.arrest


But DUers will just say he was set up by PNAC.
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:10 PM
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12. I am not going to defend that one at all.....
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:36 PM
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15. Hey, Hey, Hey!
Do we need Scott Ritter to prove that there are no WMD's? I don't think so. Why is this being raised now? Is the administration getting desperate? There have been no WMD's found...period. So what's the point of raising Ritter now?
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:50 PM
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18. Great point
They'll discredit him, maybe rightly so maybe not, but the point is the guy was right about WMD in Iraq. It has now been five months since our military entered combat in Iraq. We have found some rusted parts that were buried undcerneath a rose bush twelve years ago and a couple of trucks that turned out to be servicing vehicles for weather balloons. Oh yeah, the British sold those vehicles to the Iraqis.

Nothing here, move along.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:56 PM
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19. Before you go...
I just want to mention... there was a story on NPR this morning about an scientist in Iraq who had been forced to work for the government...his wife took their kids to Germany for years... he turned himself into the American forces after they captured Bagdad and told them that there were no WMD's. He went missing...the Americans won't say where he is. His wife has been looking for him and was at the UN building when the bombing occurred. She lived. The main reason for the NPR story seemed to be that she had been thought dead but was found alive. I think the main story is that our government is hiding away (or worse) people over there who are in a position to know what the real story is on WMD's. Any thread about Scott Ritter now makes me really wary!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:00 PM
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20. raven absofrigginlutely!
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:02 PM
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22. I'm going to kick this...
because I think this is a really interesting thread. Scott Ritter? Here is a poster with 40+ or - posts and he/she is raising Scott Ritter? Straws? Grasping for a few?
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:09 AM
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24. well the UN in 98..
Said only 65% of Iraq's destroyed WMDs were accounted for. Where did the other 35% go. Sorry but the UN wasn't trying to prove Iraq had weapons since Iraq admitted they had them after the Gulf War. Iraq is as big as California so I doubt we can locate WMDs in a few months, you anti-war folks said the UN inspectors should've been given years to look for WMDs yet you expect our untrained troops to find them in 5 months.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:20 AM
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25. I believe UNSCOM, in 1998,
actually said that 95% of Iraq's WMD's were accounted for. Iraq claimed the balance had been destroyed, but couldn't prove it to UNSCOM's satisfaction, though the biological agents would have deteriorated to a useless goo.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:30 AM
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28. no..
I think the 95% weren't all weapons programs but weapons programs, chemical and bio agents, and methods of delivery. I honestly believe the program were still in existence although not in any form to constitute an immediate threat. I supported an eventual use of force against Iraq but felt the rush into it was unnecessary.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:44 AM
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31. What's the best way to get RWing propaganda on a left-leaning board?
- Answer: disguise it as an 'innocent' question.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:58 AM
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32. The UN is right-wing?
Who here is right-wing?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 11:51 AM
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35. Yep, us "anti-war" folks wanted
to give the UN more time--and you pro-war folks bought into * and company's "we know exactly where they are."

So? Where are they?
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 12:07 PM
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36. no i never believed Bush knew where the WMDs were..
And I never said I did. But if a DUer says so, it must be true.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 02:53 PM
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37. But rummy said he knew right where they were.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 11:36 AM
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34. he was using Clinton's penis to proposition the girl
What's his sex life have to do with WMD's in Iraq?

A lot of 16 year old girls look like they're 25.

Gee, he might jerk off to Barely Legal. That discredits everything he's ever said about Iraq! What a scumbag!

Ritter's just lucky (so far) he hasn't ended up dead in the woods of "suicide"
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