Explain the meaning of the Bush mantra: "They hate us for our freedoms..."

He has said this literally hundreds of times. It has been noted often as a propaganda cliche. But has anyone ever questioned the meaning of the statement?

Would some enterprising reporter ever questionW to explain it?

Speaking about the terrorists, he says variations of "They hate us for our freedoms" or "they hate freedom".

Now, a simple question. Who in this world hates freedom? Terrorists, Insurgents, freedom fighters, rebels, writers, poets, slaves, working people, children, parents, voters, singers, the middle class, actors, doctors ...?

Do the BushCo fascists HATE US for OUR freedoms?

But too many are mental serfs and do not.

we thus pay the price.

for their "freedoms" puhleeze....

else!

That's just a throw away line that the facists made up to calm the masses!

And yes I believe the bushwas "hate" us for "Our Freedoms" and are doing everything possible to make sure we lose them.

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They hate us because we finance the bombs and bullets which kill their brothers and sisters.

... that the bushists accuse others of that which they themselves are guilty ....

I was thinking that very thing today when I heard Shrubya's comments (U.N. bombing) on NPR. In fact, I shouted out to the radio, "Oh, puh-leeeze! I'm so very sure!"

I have no clue what this idiot means when he opens his mouth. Near as I can tell, he's got one of those pre-focus-grouped, random-response generators (select one "hot-button" word from each column).

throws out to his adoring followers. It doesn't have to mean anything and they don't have to think about what he meant.

Maybe most of them do. Maybe it makes sense to them.

It doesn't matter what WE think. We think he's an idiot anyway.

people were trying to discover reasons why the United States was attacked. Of course, we never did anything at all to provoke it. At least that's what our standard high-school history courses have taught us Americans. And probably 99.5% of Americans are totally unaware of the atrocities for which America shares a large part of the blame. Southeast Asia, South America . . . only the Middle East is at least to some extent studied by the average American.

The average American is unaware of the brutal actions his government has made (because of his puff-piece, "America the Beautiful" history lessons). When the time came for talking heads and others to give reasons for other world citizens' hatred of us, they couldn't very easily reveal this very dark side of the United States, so they came up with "they hate our freedoms." So not only did we not do anything to make them hate us, but they hate us because we are so good.

they hate us because we support dictatorships that have crushed the will of the people in their home countries . . .

Not that the terrorists want any more freedoms than the dictators; they of course want to be the dictators themselves and perhaps become even more tyrranical than the current ones (I don't want to idealize the bastards).

But "they hate us for our freedoms" means not having to try to understand the enemy or what motivates them.

So if they hate us for our, for example, Due Process, I guess getting rid of that pesky freedom will stop the "terist" attacks?

Won't it be nice to get the hook and get bush off the freakin' World stage?

his puppet handlers gave him this line and it plays well with his idiot supporters.

that we needed other nations to come into Iraq and do the soldiering so that we could "free up our HUNTERS..."

OUR HUNTERS?

and changed the channel muttering "what the fuck is he talking about?"

He sounded like a complete mumbling incoherent idiot.

At least Raygun had the initiative to get his magic words and phrases down on notecards he ALWAYS had on hand when talking. Nukes, environment, taxes, whatever, in the suit pocket.

Even his simple world was more complex than the befuddled fear defining the fortunate son's.

the only one who will stand up to this empire is Dennis Kucinich and his gutting of the Pentagon Budget.

Dare to Dream of a more peaceful world
www.kucinich.us

I will say this, I appreciate the effort he and his supporters have put forth. These questions and points of view are worth bringing to light on the national stage. I don't think they are getting much attention outside of his pockets of support however, and I am also sure that no matter how noble his intentions are, he is the honest salesman of a product the electorate will not be buying this go around.

I admire your committment, but I just want to know if you are realistic about his chances. It's not that your guy is bad, it's just that he's not going anywhere in this election season.

I won't support a pro-pentagon candidate. I won't stand for EMPIRE.

I'm a hero like Luke Skywalker trying to take down the EMPIRE...most of the Dem candidates are little to no alternative to Bush. I want change damn it...I want the future to be a better place...heck, I want there to be a future...Dennis is the only one who can guarantee that.

Resistance is not futile! The force is within Dennis and his supporters. And the truth is out there! I'm just speading the word...

Anyone who doesn't cut the pentagon budget is no better than the Borg and their ways of assimilation, or the galactic empire and the dark side.

I won't support evil or empire in any way, shape or form!

Empire candidates can rot in hell!

Freedom's what the government is "taking away" all the time and what the GOP, bless their little souls, are giving us back all the time. We have the GOP to thank for our freedom, don't you know. The GOP owns the franchise on freedom. And the trademark flag too.

The Dems are the party of freedom; the GOP is the party of talking about freedom and selling our own God-given freedom back to us -- half-strength and at a profit to them.

Bush's "they hate us for our freedom" is a double dose of double speak. It's a GOP slogan being used as a cover-up for the very truths America needs to understand to survive. We won't try to address radical Islamists because Bush has said their only goal is to take away our "freedom" (which we won't allow). But it's not about freedom at all. It's about trying to forge understanding between two cultures.

Bush's saying they hate us for our freedom is just another way of saying they are evil and beyond understanding, a deadly stupidity that threatens America's future. Using the word "freedom" brings in how wonderful Bush is and how evil they are.

Well, Bushism is far from real freedom, and Muslim Islamists are not irredeemably evil lunatics. We need cooler heads and not demagogues spouting sales slogans. Freedom doesn't belong to Bush. He's its enemy really. Watch what you say, who you sleep with, which God you pray to. That's Bush's idea of freedom.

End of rant.

It can be used to formulate a ridiculous backward argument, and I assure you, it is.

"If they hate us enough for our freedoms to have done this thing, then these criticisms of the patriot act can't be true"

Sadly, my dad is basically a freeper. I also heard that Sadaam Hussein was certainly behind 9\11. It's not even possible for anyone else to have done it, because noone else had the motivation. He certainly watches way too much FOX news. It is almost unbearable to listen to these things, but there's a lot more to it than ignorance. He was in Vietnam, and I am convinced that he has a form of Stockholm's syndrome. He was hit by shrapnel in the jugular vein. He said that he was laying there and his blood was shooting out like a fountain, but he felt happy. He thought he was going home. But they patched him up and sent him back out. He was treated like garbage but he doesn't see it that way. He says that his service in the army was good for him and you should never criticize the president or anyone who is your superior.

Remember when it became clear Bushco would find no significant WMDs and was caught fibbing about uranium: then the only reason we took over Iraq was to save the Iraqis from Sadaam Hussein.

Now that Bushco can't stop terror attacks, presto changeo, he was drawing the terror attacks to Iraq on purpose to keep them out of the U.S.

It's a good thing we didn't tell the Iraqis we were going to make them a terror magnet during the phase when we were only there to save them.

"bend over, I'll drive"

and who can blame them?

I can't believe we haven't just thrown the idiot out on his ear.


http://www.costofwar.com

it's doublespeak, or also known as Dubyaspeak:

Peace=War
Love=Hate
Freedom=Slavery

"they hate us for our freedoms" = they hate us for enslaving them.

The U.S. has taken all kinds of action to support, arm and train repressive regimes in the middle east. The U.S. has assassinated their freely and democratically elected leaders and installed and otherwise supported dictatorial leaders while their freedoms are repressed. The U.S. supplies arms and weapons of mass destruction to Israel which uses them to kill and repress people, while it subsidizes jewish settlements on their land with U.S taxpayer money.

So, "they hate us for our freedoms" is Dubyaspeak for "they hate us for enslaving them."

http://www.orwelltoday.com/dblspkthennow.shtml

Peace=War
Love=Hate
Freedom=Slavery
Bush=President

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the identity of America is that of "Freedom" thus if "they hate us for our Freedom" they are attacking our very identity and we shouldn't bat an eyelash a dropping bombs on their weddings, murdering whole families, etc.

Bush is a moron. Most of the people who vote for and support him are morons. Therefore, everything Bush says must be in the most simplistic terms as possible. This is partly because Bush is too damn stupid to understand any complex explanation, and partly because his supporters are too damn stupid to understand any realistic explanation.

Repugs: "Kill all raised, flat mounds of earth with sloping sides."

you're sorry for rape/pillage/plunder of a nation! It is their "freedom" to do whatever they want to you, dam the law, dam ethics, dam any kind of moral code!

It's just short for, "they hate us for our freedoms to do whatever the fuck we want!"

and now that the man said BRING UM ON, its full court press

They hate us for our riches, our spoiled way of life, our waste of resources, our gross appetite resulting in obesity of the 4th degree.

They hate us because we hate them.

Peace can be delicious but we have not the taste, preferring blood instead. They hate us for we are cravenly lolo

Sorry, couldn't resist. :evilgrin:

"Everybody's picking on me because I'm so wonderful."