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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:11 PM
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WaPo: Ruling gives Fitzgerald leverage against Novak, other journalists
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 01:13 PM by lancdem
I didn't see this posted, but the WaPo article on the contempt ruling has some eye-catching details: first, that the Post's Walter Pincus was subpoenaed yesterday after the ruling came out, and second, that this gives Fitzgerald the leverage he wants to go after Novak now.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52895-2004Aug9.html

Lawyers involved in the case said it appears that Fitzgerald is now armed with a strong and unambiguous court ruling to demand the testimony of two journalists -- syndicated columnist Robert D. Novak, who first disclosed the CIA officer's name, and Washington Post reporter Walter Pincus, who has written that a Post reporter received information about her from a Bush administration official.

Pincus was served with a subpoena yesterday after Hogan's order was unsealed.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:14 PM
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1. I love when our whorish press, who will trash ANYONE without evidence,
gets all high and mighty about protecting "sources."

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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:14 PM
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2. What I don't understand is...
why the hell has CNN kept him on after this treasonous act.
A free press can withold confidential sources. A responsible press does not engage in treason.

His ass should have been fired a year ago.
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Laura_B_manslaughter Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:27 PM
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8. That's my complaint too
Same with the CST. He still works there too. Novak may or may not have committed a crime but he certainly did something extremely unethical and should have been canned immediately.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:28 PM
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9. Amen
On another note, I hope Fitzgerald is watching his back. I'm afraid there may be a stroke or heart attack in his future.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:33 PM
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12. Eloriel did you hear - Chicago Man Arrested in Plot to Bomb Courthouse
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 01:35 PM by seemslikeadream
Chicago Man Arrested in Plot to Bomb Courthouse


CHICAGO (Reuters) - A convicted counterfeiter who had a grudge against the government was arrested on Thursday for plotting with undercover U.S. agents to blow up the building housing federal offices in Chicago, prosecutors said.
Gale Nettles, 66, told a fellow inmate of his desire to use a fertilizer truck bomb to blow up the Dirksen federal building, authorities said. The inmate told authorities, and undercover FBI agents and other informants contacted Nettles after he was released from prison last year.

"The only people he dealt with were FBI agents and informants ... this had nothing to do with any terrorist group," U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald told a news conference in the building Nettles was suspected of targeting.

"Today's action is not related to the nation's current terrorism threat level. Nettles was always acting alone and had no connections to any terrorist organization," Fitzgerald said.

He said the Dirksen building, a glass and steel skyscraper that houses courtrooms as well as the offices of the FBI and federal prosecutors, was never in jeopardy.

more
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=5888437

Nettles told the undercover agent he could make a 3,000-pound fertilizer bomb.

``He had a rational plan to build a bomb. We weren't going to wait to see if it would work,'' Fitzgerald said.

Timothy McVeigh used a bomb made of 4,800 pounds of ammonium nitrate to blow up the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995, killing 168 people.

Nettles was arrested at a park early Thursday with the pickup truck when he met the undercover agents who he thought were terrorists, according to the criminal complaint. The fertilizer he obtained in the sting does not have the explosive potential of ammonium nitrate.

According to the complaint, Nettles met July 26 with an undercover agent he thought was a member of a terrorist group. In a recorded meeting, Nettles said he had a half ton of ammonium nitrate in New Orleans that he could have in Chicago in two days and that he had a target in mind - the U.S. courthouse downtown, the complaint said.

A court appearance for Nettles was scheduled Thursday afternoon.

Nettles was released from prison in 2003 after serving time for counterfeiting and apparently retained a grudge against the court system, Fitzgerald said. The Dirksen federal building in downtown Chicago houses federal criminal and civil courts and the U.S. attorney's office

more
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4390698,00.html


just a little warning :shrug:
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:16 PM
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3. Pincus is very close to the CIA, from what I've heard. Some have even ...
... speculated that he IS/WAS CIA.

Pincus probably would NOT be one of the ones the White House called to out Plame. Pincus is likely not being called to ask him to reveal any sources. But b/c of his connections, Pincus may nevertheless KNOW who outed Plame (and be willing to testify to it).

I'm not optimistic about Novak. He'll play martyr to the end. He's got two motives to do so. The journalistic and the partisan: Protection of his sources and Protection of his party.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:19 PM
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4. Novak Is Too Much Of A Coward
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 01:20 PM by Beetwasher
He will not risk jail. I predict he will roll before he risks going to jail...

What makes you think Republicans are loyal? They will throw whoever they have to the wolves to protect their asses and they always have...
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:22 PM
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6. or chew on the business end of a gun
too much of a punk to stand in his truth and take his ass whippin' for it.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:20 PM
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5. Novak = "hostile witness"
Interesting material; I hope you will add it to the Plame threads!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:24 PM
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7. I will
What do you think it means? I'd like to hear your interpretation.
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Laura_B_manslaughter Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:28 PM
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10. This is a huge story that the media has buried
They hate plamegate cause it makes both the press and their god bush look bad.
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AlabamaYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:32 PM
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11. Fitzgerald was testing his strategy
I was wondering why it appeared he was going after peripheral figures while seeming to let Novak alone. My hunch is that he wanted to have a surefire approach before reeling Novak in. It'as better to lose on the small fry and try again with a different tactic, than to let the main target skate.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:43 PM
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14. Good point
I think he wanted to get the court ruling before going after Novak.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:37 PM
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13. I talked to Pincus on the phone, about Sibel Edmonds
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 01:45 PM by buycitgo
he could hardly have been LESS interested, saying it wasn't his desk that was handling it

I asked if he'd pass it on, and he said, very unenthusiastically, that he would

I told him that the ONLY newspaper that had covered it all was the New York Times

I've heard about the CIA connections, too

dunno if it was WRT the Bernstein story a long time ago



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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 01:45 PM
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15. gee, what a surprise
According to John Kelly of CounterSpy magazine, Post reporter Walter Pincus (CFR) worked for the CIA in 1959 as an Agency trained and funded delegate sent to the International Youth Festival in Vienna to disrupt the festival and spy on fellow Americans. After briefing agents on his activities and taking a pledge of secrecy, he went on attend youth conferences in Ghana and Guinea.

Pincus claims that he was offered, but turned down, a permanent CIA position, although he did attend a political meeting in New Delhi at the Agency's request before going on to bigger and better things at the Post. Pincus has written several pieces sympathetic to CIA operations.

He published an article just prior to the release of Bernstein's Rolling Stone expose downplaying the article's claims, even though his report essentially let Post publisher Katherine Graham off the hook.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 04:12 PM
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16. Kick this important story!
:kick:
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