The unspoken reason many Americans support the Iraq war...

I just figured it out after talking to a Repub here. He seriously thinks that we should just nuke Iraq and get it over with. So when I mention the current "reason" we went to liberate the poor people from Saddam, who killed his own people - his response is "who cares about that? Middle Eastern people attacked us, we need to kill all ME people, including the ones who are here.

So does that mean the pro-Iraq war people secretly just want to kill all Middle Easterns, and that's why they're swallowing the Kool-Aid?:scared:

as humans.

This is truly bothering me right now. I never could figure out why all the changing reasons were acceptable, and the fact that Saddam was a "bad man" was the hardest to figure out. There are too many evil leaders out there for us to use that as a reason to attack.

My liberal minded self tried to accept that they were truly feeling for the Iraqi people, but I can't see that now. They just want to cleanse the planet of people who are different from them.

It's like discovering the Stepford Wives.

For them being right means winning the argument, not actually being right.

1) Xenophobia
2) Jingoism

it's the heart of the repuke party!

All Arabs are Semitic. They are decendents of Ishmeal.He is the brother of Isaac and the son of Abraham. same God as Moses, the God of Abraham. They believe in Jesus(Isa, Son of Marium) and that He plays a role in Judgement Day. Moses is spoken of many many more times in the Koran than is Muhammad.

can't have a positive effect on you.

You didn't believe they cared about the Iraqis or anyone else, did you?

cheap unleaded!

considering the country with the largest Muslim population per capita is Indonesia. Nuking the Mid East would not get rid of Islamic extremism.

One need only face the horror of racist terrorism exploited by the Mighty CIA/neo-con Wurlitzer to see that blind rage and ignorance was channeled towards the oil fields to compete with China for the planet.

I haven't. In the lead-up to war, I used to see them all the time around here. Even my old man, who while watching the Propaganda.. errrrr I mean History Channel, said to me "and people still question whether we should have gone to war" after seeing a piece about how Saddam had people raped in front of their family now states that we should just turn that place into glass. I asked him if that's what he thinks about after receiving communion. That shut his ASS up real fast. I love my dad with all of my heart, and it makes me physically ill to hear him say that shit.

justification which fundamentalists use. A blasphemous perversion of Christianity to justify killing people. When the fundies I work with start up with the "smiting" talk, I walk away. Someday, when they find the time to read the New Testament, maybe they'll be less blood thirsty.

supported the war because it would start the Apocalypse and she was ready for Rapture. Totally serious. OHMIGOD you should have heard this conversation! I was actually yelling at her over the phone she scared me so bad.

I asked her if she was OK with my son getting killed during this end of the world thing and she asked if he was saved. And if he wasn't, that was my fault.

Crazy Crazy Crazy

might as well be the Bush campaign slogan. The more ignorant a person is the more likely they are to be taken in by Bush's lies. I've heard this exact same attitude before (doesn't matter whether Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 we need to show them A-rabs that we need business). A colleague who expressed this belief to me was surprised to learn that there were rivers in Iraq during the invasion. Enough said.

One where I frequently stop and chat with the clerk, a nice, African-American woman. I commented on a button that she was wearing and told her about a new bumpersticker that I have and she said something about those "damned republicans". This guy who stated he's 44, immigrated here from Brazil 20 yrs. ago and is now a citizen, asked us "What's wrong with republicans?"

We both engaged him on many tangents during the next few minutes and he admitted 2 things to us that most repubs here can't:

1. Bush is creating a worse terrorist problem due to his policies and actions in Iraq

2. Bush is a liar, the whole Iraq fiasco is based on lies and that so many civilians have been killed he'd call it mass murder

BUT...he's still going to vote for him.

This guy isn't the good ol' boy type that I usually encounter and I would guess he's encountered a few bigots as he still has a thick Spanish accent and it truly didn't seem to be a religious thing with him. His only response was that he's a repug and is going to vote for Bush*.

Absolutely blew my mind.

Many of the Hillbillies and Fundies think that way.

Listen to some of the people who call in on CSpan.

They say we should "kill all Arabs" and other stuff.

mass genocide. GAWD!

I don't know why this is just sinking in, but I'm freaked.

Essentially, I think everyone is capable of the same level of empathy. People are biased by past experiences and biology. People who do evil things are still as good as they were as an infant, in an absolute sense, they have just made bad decisions or responded in an unfortunate way to events or chemicals.

So, the guy that thinks that Iraq should be turned into glass, could feel empathy for an Iraqi if he were in a situation that would get him to recognize the person for what they are. Likewise, the person who feels sick about the slaughter of Iraqis, might be brutal at a moments notice if enraged by a situation.

For example, I have a friend that occasionally lapses into making racist comments about Blacks. And, I am sure he would be willing to do something that would be unfair to Blacks, based on that tendency of his, like vote for some racist law. But he has occasional had Black friends that he clearly had deep respect for. So, I think he just hasn't been in the right situation to make that understanding propagate.

"That will solve all our problems with the Middle East," they say. No, they don't seem to care that we were lied to or that we are supposedly there to "liberate" and "bring democracy". It's weird because the same people who advocate a "nuke 'em all" policy will often argue that Bush should be re-elected because he "liberated two countries."

It's what I keep saying about my RW relatives - they don't debate issues at all - they simply repeat sound bites and catchphrases and never once think about what they're saying.

He said we need to pick a city in the Middle East and drop a nuclear bomb on them. It didn't matter which one; we just needed to prove a point.

There is something to the argument that a lot of Americans believe all Muslims and all Arabs are to blame for 9/11.

Actually years ago, PJ O'Rourke expressed a similar sentiment about Iran/Contra, stating that the money was used to kill Communists or people who were going to grow up to be Communists, which is why few Americans seemed up in arms.

That's why they support bush. They figure he'll do whatever it takes to keep us supplied with cheap gas. If that means genociding all the arabs, fine with them. Big cars are just as vital to repugs as guns.

It makes my stomach turn :puke: .... to hear comments like that. It seems that if the neo-cons can't find a solution to a problem...their answer is to kill. They won't ever admit that they may have been wrong... or there may have been a better way to achieve the desired outcome. Just kill em... and let God sort them out.

Sometimes I wonder how mankind has made it this far. :nuke: