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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 08:02 AM
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What would any prez do if their nation is attacked??
I keep hearing "well thank god gore wasn't in office on 9/11"
but what would ANY prez do in that circumstance?
go to ground zero right? RIGHT
talk to the people right? RIGHT
say we are going to go get the people who did this right? RIGHT
forget all about who did the horrible event and go after someone entirely different right? RIGHT...uhm... wait a minute... no that would not be a good thing ....
Use all the good will the world up and make the world hate us right! hmm.. can we stop now???
start the patriot act which takes away citizens rights right? AACCKKK....


but seriously... what did he do that is so different than what gore did following the days that the repugs are so "thankful for"?
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 08:07 AM
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1. thanks for saying what i've always thought. :) n/t
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 08:09 AM
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2. "Even Nader would have attacked Afghanistan."
Edited on Sun Aug-15-04 08:09 AM by BlueEyedSon
-- comedian David Cross
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 08:19 AM
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3. Thanks !
I've wondered this myself. Maybe they think that Gore would have gone immediately to the White House, taken charge, and been on the trail of OBL pronto. Or maybe they fear that 9/11 would never have happened.....
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 08:29 AM
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4. Bush's "sensitive war"...in Tora Bora, he called off our Special Forces...
And sent in the Warlords...a notoriously corrupt and self-serving amalgam of local mercenaries, who give their support to whoever's in power. The Warlords then negotiated a peaceful withdrawl of the trapped Taliban forces. It was a grave mistake.

As a result, Bin Laden and his thugs appear to have been given free passage out of Afghanistan, and on to who knows where. In short, Bush let bin Laden slip through our fingers.

This was George Bush's "sensitive war". Rumsfield was trying to show the career military that his goof-ball "light forces" theory could prevail in Afghanistan. Thus, he paid the Warlords to do the dirty work, instead of relying on superior US firepower and the best-trained SF troops in history to carry out their mission (and make no mistake...those SF troops were chomping at the bit to finish off the Taliban).

President Gore (or President Kerry) would not have ceded aggressive control of the Tora Bora battle to local flunkies just so the local warlord didn't get his nose out of joint.

If only the grownups would have been in charge in the Autumn of 2001.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 08:41 AM
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5. That seems kind of strange
I've also heard another person say we let the warlords in on conflict in Tora Bora too. It kind of makes me wonder if Bush and bin Laden have some kind of deal. I mean, if he was going to send our troops to their death, create the Patriot Act, detain over a 1000 people, that means it is kind of weird if we won't send our own troops in to get bin Laden.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 08:52 AM
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6. If it was a conspiracy...it was a conspiracy of ignorance...
I don't believe Bush let him escape because of their busness connesctions...it was more than likely due to the arrogance and stupidity of the Bush senior staff.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0304/p01s03-wosc.html

How bin Laden got away

A day-by-day account of how Osama bin Laden eluded the world's most powerful military machine.

By Philip Smucker | Special to The Christian Science Monitor

As the US intensified its airstrikes on Tora Bora, US and Afghan helicopters started to arrive with supplies for the Afghans. Also - as was its pattern elsewhere in Afghanistan - the US began enlisting local warlords. Two - Hazret Ali and Haji Zaman Ghamsharik - would become notorious in the battle for Tora Bora.
<snip>
"We looked at the entire spectrum of options that we had available to us and decided that the use of small liaison elements were the most appropriate," says Army Col. Rick Thomas in a phone interview from US Central Command Headquarters in Tampa, Fla.

"We chose to fight using the Afghans who were fighting to regain their own country," Colonel Thomas says. "Our aims of eliminating Al Qaeda were similar
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 08:57 AM
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8. Good point! It was also oh so sensitive of the Bush gang ...
to allow the Pakistanis to guard the border along Tora Bora to catch the fleeing taliban. That was just sooooo sensitive. Rather than putting a US infantry division on the border, Bush felt the pain of the Pakis and put the Pakis in charge of catching Cousin Osama. Yep, the whole campaign to catch the real people who attacked was a very sensitive operation.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 09:01 AM
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9. Bush trusted Geraldo to get Bin Laden as advertised on FOX!
Edited on Sun Aug-15-04 09:02 AM by Hubert Flottz
Geraldo was personally going to whack Osama in the one Tora Bora report I saw and you can't blame the DOD for trusting Geraldo to get the job done!

Bush and the DOD knew what had happened to the USSR in Afghanistan and they didn't want another Viet Nam! Then the Keystone Cons invaded Iraq and got the Viet Nam they had run away from in Afghanistan! Iraq was a POLITICAL WAR! The Neo Cons thought the win would be an easy one! They thought WRONG! KKKarl needed a WAR PRESIDENT, so they invaded Iraq!
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Guy_Montag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 08:56 AM
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7. Maybe, just maybe
Gore could have convinced the Taliban to hand over Bin Laden. It looked like they were close to doing that at one point.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 09:14 AM
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10. One difference would have been that
people wouldn't have needed to question who is really in charge. Is it Cheney, is it Bush? We would have known for sure that Gore was the person making the decisions and he would have been held responsible for every single one, and accepted that responsibility.

Anybody that wants a president who isn't held accountable must have a hole in the head. I think the Republicans only care about their party winning and maintaining their phony tough guy image. I think they want royalty, they love how Bush behaves like a king, they don't care about what he really does. As long as he satisfies the image, the reality means nothing to them. At least that how it looks to me, given all the hypocrisy they have demonstrated the past four years,
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 09:31 AM
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11. Most Presidents would go after the people that attacked us
unlike that stupid ass George Bush who invaded a completely unrelated country. If Bush had been President in 1941, he would have invaded Greenland instead of Normandy.
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