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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:33 PM Original message |
The Great Abortion Lie |
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4morewars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Most big issues are not black and white |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
144. I think most thoughtful mature people know that women have a |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #144 |
196. I have a uterus. This concerns me. |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #196 |
205. Thanks for your post |
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ChocolateSaltyBalls (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. While I appreciate your lengthy and well thought out diatribe.......... |
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robodruid (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Never???? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I agree |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. it is unimportant or should be at all EXCEPT |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
145. funny coming from some one who started the thread |
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StrongbadTehAwesome (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. Agreed. |
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Jokinomx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
77. Great Post...Kaelinn I agree with you 100% |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #77 |
121. It is the women's right to choose, your freedom ends where the |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #77 |
146. you can say no all you want |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #146 |
197. " i say no"...that about sums it up, doesn't it? |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #197 |
210. As a woman, I am sick of hearing "no" |
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DODI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. My view -- this issue should not be legislated. It is a woman's choice, |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. So.... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
147. who gives a flying flame war about what the laws are elsewhere? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. so you support the current law |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Thanks for saying this. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Depends |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Waiting periods are the hugest insult to a woman's intelligence |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I believe |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Making people jump through arbitrary hoops to your satisfaction |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. My point |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. "enforcing waiting periods" |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. The "purported" purpose |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. How about you mind your own business? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. Deal |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #58 |
152. lol and the truth comes out |
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ant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. then can I assume... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. Good solution (nt) |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. would you need a "waiting period" before deciding to have a medical |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. can you explain this "danger" thing please? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. You pretty much summed it up for me |
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frankly_fedup2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
100. A friend of mine was getting her tubes tied and she had to wait . . . |
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frankly_fedup2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:12 AM Response to Reply #100 |
141. WOW. No one has an answer for my question regarding IVF. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #141 |
155. Maybe we can have a whole class of women who have to carry those |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #100 |
154. petri dishes didn't spread their legs and get fucked |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #67 |
153. Women who have abortions are always "informed " beforehand |
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doodleysquat (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
228. But |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
131. A little correction |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #131 |
156. Tell that to the women who got sick from it |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #131 |
195. i think some women and doctors might disagree with you |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 10:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
132. Not strictly accurate |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #132 |
216. Mahlum v. Dow Chemical (10/95) |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #39 |
151. you have no idea what you are talking about |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Waiting periods are ridiculous |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Amen |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Thanks for the hugs |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #53 |
157. waiting periods force poor women into giving birth |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
150. what is the point of the waiting period? |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. deleted message by poster |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
149. Nice side lateral arabesque |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
127. Especially since you can't be a woman in this country |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #127 |
158. good point! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. "partial-birth" is a creation of the pro-control movement |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Question |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. no...it's not necessary |
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ant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. what's more |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. this person knows the law |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #23 |
159. again with the side lateral arabesque |
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frankly_fedup2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
106. There is no such thing as a partial birth abortion. Never has been . . . |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #106 |
160. If I remmember correctly Nederland also supports the War in Iraq |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #106 |
199. Umm, not totally correct. |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Actually, the bill that Clinton vetoed |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Thanks |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
94. You're welcome |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #94 |
163. Yes but Nederland would rather blame NARAL |
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ant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. a few points |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. It's correctly termed "late term" abortions - but thanks for repeating |
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ant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. actually, it isn't |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Thanks |
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ant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. well |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Fair enough |
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ant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
111. no! |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #41 |
164. the fact that I defend my right against men who want to negotiate them |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
49. In other words you support |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
83. Why do you support parental notification laws? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
148. "WE" are worse off? |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. Don't pay attention to No Healthcare, No Jobs, and Record Deficits |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Yep. |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. exactly |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. like the big dog said |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. abortion is a perfectly safe and legal form of birth control. Any other |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Yes |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
165. my body my morality........... your body your morality |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Absolutely right. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
16. but....but....we have the middle ground now, what are you predicting? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I'm predicting |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. A very IMPORTANT factor |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
46. thanks for adding the reality of healthcare |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
166. I'm predicting |
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olddem43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. This is the best commentary I've ever read on this issue. |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
135. Has anyone wondered.... |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
26. Actually, there really are only 2 positions |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Agreed, this thread is based on fallacy argumentum ad populum |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. I almost agree with you |
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ant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. I disagree |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
75. Actually, I'm not talking about morality |
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ant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
107. interesting.... |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. Well, I'm not a scientist or medical |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
56. Disagree |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. question: how do you know what most people think on this issue? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Sure |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. thank you for the pollls |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. A good point |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. actually...i think you've touched on the crux of the big debate |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
82. Legally, the issue IS when life begins |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
84. False dichotomy |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. Did you read the rest of my post? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:29 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. Yes; you contradicted yourself |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. No I didn't |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Then there are more than two positions, and the dichotomy disappears |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #84 |
168. you can think what ever you want about when life begins |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
209. Wrong. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #209 |
212. Umm, that is what the debate is about. |
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Qutzupalotl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. I agreed with everything up to this point: |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. I guess time will tell |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. Are you a male or a female? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. c'mon...who else would start an abortion thread at DU? |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Yeah, I know. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. It doesn't matter |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. On the contrary. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Then it looks like |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Well, that's right. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Response |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. If only it were that easy. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. yes, you have represented this position |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #92 |
116. Question |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #116 |
167. easy...slaves were not fetuses |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #116 |
173. Whoes body were those slaves living at the time? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. what gives you or anyone the right to "disagree" about her body? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
110. Roe vs. Wade |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. my question is about ownership |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. Response |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. unless the slave was inside the slaveowners' body |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. I already answered the question |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #129 |
137. I have an idea..... |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #137 |
203. I Wish! |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #203 |
217. Better yet.... |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #217 |
231. Its a little more complicated than that. |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-04 06:17 AM Response to Reply #231 |
239. I know the feasibility factor is low |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #129 |
162. why do you care about a fetus that isn't yours? 1st question |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #129 |
177. I care about the women you are having sex with...your sperm is a health |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #117 |
174. Have you had a vasectomy yet? |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. But, in post 56 |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:13 PM Response to Reply #90 |
112. No |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. What rights does a fetus have in our system? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Text of Roe vs. Wade |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Nope |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. Read the ruling |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #122 |
130. Here you go |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. No, it doesn't help |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #133 |
176. I guess you read it differently |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #176 |
191. No, you read it *incorrectly*, not differently |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. I think your missing the point |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. Bullshit- I conceded no such thing |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #194 |
200. Then you are wrong |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #81 |
172. Why can't you understand the MOST IMPORTANT POINT OF ALL |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #172 |
204. Perhaps from this angle ... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #204 |
208. Yes she does have that right |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #208 |
235. Upon consideration... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #63 |
170. He is male |
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Qutzupalotl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
76. I agree they couldn't keep it illegal for long. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
88. Deleted message |
Qutzupalotl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 09:38 AM Response to Reply #88 |
142. It matters if they are able to do it. |
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rowire (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. Good Analysis But ....... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
79. Scientists still use viability and most likely always will |
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Zero Division (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
85. That's odd |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
218. No flame, but a smartass idea |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
78. I'm tired of arrogant abortion posts. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #78 |
187. What is it with you and "arrogant abortion posts"? |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #187 |
198. arrogant abortion posts are irritating, you dont agree? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
80. The pictures aren't important |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
89. the issue is, has been and will always be: woman |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Sorry, that isnt the issue. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. of course that's what the entire debate is about |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
125. Did you read my post? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #125 |
169. i don't have to deal with anything...except |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #169 |
201. I still dont think you understand what im saying. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:27 PM Response to Reply #201 |
206. It may be logically sound |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #201 |
214. logically sound: FOR THEM |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #214 |
219. I guess it makes it easier for you to demonize your opponants. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #219 |
243. as i mentioned, i don't need to "accept" anything |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #93 |
179. It is amazing how you know what all people think........lol |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #179 |
221. That is YOUR opinion. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #221 |
222. You are totally confused |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 08:56 PM Response to Reply #222 |
224. What exactly am I confused about? |
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Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #89 |
105. thanks noiretblu |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
95. Well said... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #95 |
180. lovely.... another person with a penis who wants to renegotiate my |
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liontamer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
97. I'm pro-abortion |
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Worthless Teen (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
98. I've been raised in a really conservative family... |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:33 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Why do you consider yourself against abortion? |
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Worthless Teen (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. I think it's a way to protect sexual irresponsibility... |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. So someone who has behaved |
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Worthless Teen (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. So, |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. I guess that's where I get confused |
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Worthless Teen (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #124 |
136. Grrrrr... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #136 |
183. so you are saying that a life should be murdered because it's father is |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #118 |
126. While you're at it look up "judgemental" in the dictionary |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #126 |
134. Well then let me add fuel to that fire |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #134 |
184. you just lost |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #184 |
189. wrong place |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. . |
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LeftyLou (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #118 |
175. pro choice adoptee says....... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #104 |
182. so women should be punished for the rest of their life for irresponsible |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #98 |
181. think again |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
102. Deleted message |
CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
123. Self deleted . . . |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
138. I bet you're a guy |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:00 AM Response to Reply #138 |
140. he he he |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #140 |
185. to be really honest I don't give a damn when life begins |
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Worthless Teen (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #138 |
171. Way to continue in the theme of intelligent debate... |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #171 |
202. c'mon.... |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #138 |
207. Is it really a disruption? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #207 |
211. Not true. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #211 |
229. Not really |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. Do you have any idea of the dangers of a 14-yr-old |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #230 |
234. It probably depends on the development of the person. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-04 12:28 AM Response to Reply #234 |
238. Really! |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-04 06:32 AM Response to Reply #230 |
240. I didn't tell the whole story |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:44 PM Response to Reply #229 |
236. Well said! n/t |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #229 |
237. Here's some websites you and Ida Briggs might want to read. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-04 06:49 AM Response to Reply #237 |
241. Thank you for those links |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #207 |
223. We already have a reasonable answer and the pro-lifer can vote for bush |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #223 |
232. Actually, we don't. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-04 06:54 AM Response to Reply #232 |
242. Wow. |
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LearnedHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
139. Carl Sagan and Ann Duryen (sp?) addressed... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
143. No Uterus right? |
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chopper (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #143 |
178. seriously, Cheswick.. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #178 |
186. apparently I have not made the point enough since people are still |
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chopper (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #186 |
213. okay... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #213 |
215. LOL |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #213 |
225. LOL....oooops |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #178 |
188. Do I know you by some other name on another board? |
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wadestock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
161. It is another proverbial "no win" type of debate.... |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
190. In a legal sense, there are only two sides to the issue |
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Worthless Teen (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 08:36 PM Response to Reply #190 |
220. Why is it that |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #220 |
226. Oh you're so precious |
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Worthless Teen (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:18 PM Response to Reply #226 |
233. I thought that the |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #233 |
244. what exactly did you mean by the statement? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 09:03 PM Response to Reply #220 |
227. aborting your fellow men................ ouch |
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