Dose religon shape anyone's Political Beliefs

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It was just some big Jackass stunt that got a bit out of control.

that was great!

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I go by Destino. Look on our calender to see when we have scrims or matches we are all on our server the hour before each mot of the time.

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Funny though, I used to play wargames years ago...

I just took a look at the sight...

The moniker is just because I'm a fan of "Dr. Strangelove" and the concept of the recall code.

Ripper: Grain alcohol and rainwater, Mandrake.

kinda me I guess, like Christ's preachings not really though I explained my reasons in my poll, I think that could apply however to my grandparents who are dems because of religious reasons.

Absence of religion equally so.

Which is why it is so wildly absurd when people bemoan that others are bringing their religion 'into their politics'.

The tricky part is getting those so inclined to refrain from creating policies based on scriptures, but rather on religious principles.

Such is life.

Don't get me wrong, I like the teachings of Jesus Christ but I feel that are being used to handcuff the poor and put them (us) into more of a disadvantage.

Path of the Human Being. I believe my political views and notions of justice are inherant in most religions.

is a spiritual act, and cannot help but enter into political perspectives and choices. It's all part of the human path, isn't it?

It's when religion becomes a one-size-fits-all mandate that it negatively impacts all aspects of life, including politics.

Great article here on the 2000 election breakdown:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A56905-2001Mar25?language=printer

"Frequency of church attendance has become a better indicator of partisanship than income or education: Among whites who go to church more than once a week, Bush won by a decisive 79 percent to 20 percent. Among those who never attend religious services, Gore won 59 percent to 33 percent, according to VNS."

Another great piece on the 2000 elections at Religious Tolerance.Org.:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/vote_rel.htm

It sure looks like religion does have a pretty strong effect.

I think that anyone who is religious cannot help be influenced politically. Some "Christians" are like Pharisees and pick out small pieces of scripture to condemn people while disregarding the main messages of Christ. These people tend to be Republican. Other Christians embrace the big messages of Christ "Love your neighbor as yourself" "Know what this means I demand mercy, not sacrafice" among others and tend to be Democrat. Other religions also influence politics but I am just using the example of the tradition I am most familiar with and probably has the most influence on American politics.

Fundie religion, to be specific.

I think the Jewish doctrine of tikkun olam (repair of the world) definitely guides me and my political views. I think that is the case for a lot of Jews, who continue to vote Democratic even as they climb the economic latter. One particular Jewish doctrine that has directly influenced my views on welfare and education is Maimonidies' 8 levels of good deeds, the highest being helping someone to help his/herself. That doctrine is why I mostly support welfare reform but think they should have gone further in providing job training and child care and increased the minimum wage substantially in order to truly enable these people to work their way out of poverty. And that is why I feel so strongly about equal educational opportunity and giving everyone a good k-12 education regardless of what town they live in and how much money their parents make and helping to make college affordable for everyone.

some consideration for the fact that they will be the last to be offered a job. Yes, race and gender discrimination still happen in this country and it's not on a rare occasion either.

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not a centrist not a DLC style democrat but a liberal.

Dawgman, anybody who isn't just a Christian in name only, but actually FOLLOWS Christ should become a "Liberals Like Christ"
See http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/Democrats .

look at most of the US presidents...murdering crusaders.

Everything is political.

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I am a Christian. Unapologetically. My faith not only shapes my political beliefs, it motivates them. It gives me hope, encouragement, and energy.

Jesus was the paradigmantic liberal: "Blessed are the poor ... the meek ... for they shall inherit the earth." "Inasmuch as you have done it unto to the least of these my brethren, you have done it unto me."

That's just for starters. I am a liberal because the Jesus I believe in commands it. Because it's RIGHT. Because ALL of us, theists and atheists, Christians and non-Christians, Muslims, etc. are all God's children. Because we have a duty to the least of these our brethren. Because we have a duty to preserve God's creation. Because I take the Bible seriously.

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I am a buddhist, and i believe this world is a slow-moving transitory mirage between countless lifetimes. The only thing that is real in life is enlightenment, or buddha nature. This is inside of all people, more manifest in some than others... as in their direct awareness of it.

A buddhist believes that in one lifetime or another, every person on this earth has been your mother... and that the respect you would have towards your mother should be towards all human kind.

Buddhism says that life is suffering, and that this suffering comes about from attachment to desire. By living ones life in a way that nurtures awareness of buddha nature, the identification to this attachment can be transcended that one experience omniscient bliss, whether that is in sitting meditation, or on a packed subway car.

I have learned that most people in life are confused, and that in their despiration, they are potentially dangerous, as a drowning person can drown his/her rescuer by grabbing them too hard... so i support a political mix that extends the liberalism i would afford my mother to all of humanity (the universal declaration of human rights)... and i support all political expression of liberality and justice.

"What does the Lord require of you? nothing except that you do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God."

that goes a long way toward explaining my politics.

"He has told you, O man, what is good;
And what does the Lord require of you
But to do justice, to love kindness,
And to walk humbly with your God?"

agrees with the putative teachings of Jesus, whether he existed or not. I just find it really odd that most self-proclaimed 'christians' don't.

Even if there was never an actual historical Jesus, his teaching and example ARE real, and they speak even to Deists, agnostics and atheists.

the last time religion and politics were mixed, people were burned at the stake or something similar to that.

No reason whatsoever for religion to mix with politics.

Don't approve of abortion? then teach your faithful congregation not to have one--but stay out of the law of the land--don't approve of assisted suicide,? then teach your faithful sheeple not to pursue that on their death bed--but stay out of the law of the land--all that is religious idiology needs to be preached to the faithful and they, if they think they will go to a heaven somewhere after they die, can follow that course as they see fit for THEMSELF--but stay out of the law of the land--you have no business interfering in that--

and to vote that way

Helping the poor and standing up for the little guy. That is a major part of my religion.

If you wanted to run for office in a country where 80% of the electorate identified themselves as Muslim, or agnostic, or whatever, would you hire a consultant who recommended that you try to NOT to appear to be a muslim or an agnostic?

Even though AN OFFICE HOLDER shouldn't show partiality to one group over others, only a guaranteed loser would avoid APPEALING to whatever groups outnumber others, especially if it's on a factor of 8 to 1 as is the case with Christians vs. any other single group.

See the excellent article on Democrats embracing their faith as candidates and WINNING.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/vault/stories/values102998.htm
One great example is Arkansas Dem. Blanche Lincoln who challenged the Religious Right candidate for the U.S. Senate and won.


at http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/Democrat .

See what Christ might say about the "Christian Coalition" & "Religious Right" imposters.

With me, my cultural affections shaped the spiritual beliefs I chose.

A life with Jesus is a life of self-sacrifice and I believe these fundies are not with Jesus or else they would not do what is only in thier self-interest.

I am a liberal because of my religion. I learned how to be a liberal at church. The liberal values of tolerance, compassion, empathy, supporting economic justice, and civil rights, I learned at church. I also learned activism there.

It's not unusual for Black churches to be Liberal, but more so for white ones to be. Could you tell us what denomination and what part of the country? http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/Democrats .

My beliefs as noted above are purely from my own reading of the Bible. Mostly from the Sermon on the Mount.

You know, help the poor, be meek, be a peacemaker. It's really hard work being a Christian.

As was she..So yeah, I'd be lying if I said religion played no part in my current beliefs(political and otherwise). It was long, long, ago when I "saw" one had nothing to do with the other. My mom could have conveyed the same lessons without using Jesus as a teaching tool....as I will do with my own children.