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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:14 AM
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Pick up a bridal magazine - see any brown faces?
Any black, latino, asian faces?

What's the deal with that?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:16 AM
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1. Nope.
I don't look at them, so I wouldn't know. :-(

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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 11:12 AM
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23. Off topic but your link to Raygun is phenomenal...thanx. I bookmarked it.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:19 AM
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2. Yeah, we noticed that when Mrs. IconCat and were planning our shindig.
Kinda odd, aint it?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:45 AM
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12. Actually - not odd - typical
How sad
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:19 AM
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3. No idea
When I got married last year I noticed it myself. No hispanics, maybe one african american. I was insulted for awhile, but after reading it I saw it was a shallow horsewash magazine anyway, and no self respecting hispanic would want to be part of it. They say stuff like "Make your wedding day a day to remember!" Bull. You should remember your wedding day whether you are wearing a vera wang gown or an old garbage bag. The dress, the cake, the music all amounts to nothing in the big scheme of things.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:23 AM
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5. I agree totally - my point is that non-white people are not allowed to
be viewed as "the perfect bride"

You won't see a black woman in a bridal magazine but you will see her in a cigarette ad.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:35 AM
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7. The people that run those magazines don't want minorities
AT their weddings, much less as the main event in the wedding. It makes me want to puke! At the GOP tent at the IL state fair they had a big latino section with "Viva la Bush" written there. How very stereotypical. I half expected a Speedy Gonzales poster.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:42 AM
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10. Slowpoke Rodriguez is more likely
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:45 AM
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11. One thing to keep in mind
is that the bridal magazines are aimed mainly at young women ages 18-25 and their mothers who are totally invested in having the wedding of their dreams. It's expected to be purchased read faithfully for a period of about six months, during the planning process. So there's almost no new content of substance, but just endlessly recycled pieces on how to plan a fall wedding, or a spring wedding, or hot honeymoon spots, and so on.

I got one or two issues way back when I was getting married, and while I enjoyed looking at the lovely dresses and so on, since I wasn't planning a traditional wedding, there wasn't much point in looking at them.

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:22 AM
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4. I always hated
those magazines so I wouldn't know. That is just wrong. I wonder what the deal is?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:35 AM
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8. Yes,that's for bringing it up


You are right. I can't remember a pretty brown face in an all white Bride's Magazine.

I'll start telling my friends not to buy any of those magazines. Just stand at the check out counter and put their pretty brown finger prints on them.

The beat keeps on...
I was talking to a lovely Hispanic actress last week. She said that it is still hard to get work on TV and movies. The problem is they are still looking for Jennifer Aniston around every corner.

It makes me so mad because "Friends" could easily have included one close Friend that was not white. I go lots of places and see a mixture of friends in social settings. What a surprise it would be to look at the Emmy Awards and see more than 10 brown faces in the audience!

Racism is STILL alive and well in A mer ka,the land of Bush.
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:26 AM
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6. There are separate magazines
aimed at ethnic "niche" markets. You will also notice that the major fashion magazines almost never put anyone other than white models on their covers. Vogue has not had an African-American on the cover for maybe ten years now.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:40 AM
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9. can you name a non-white bridal magazine?
One that is made in THIS country?
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:51 AM
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14. Can't recall the name
but I once did some graphic design work for an African-American bridal magazine, and was told there was more than one, and that they were tailored to specific preferences in that market.

:shrug:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:53 AM
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15. I have a freind who searched for one and could only find one made in the
UK

:shrug:
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:48 AM
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13. yeah, what is the deal with that?
The bridal industry is stuck in the 1950s. A friend of mine, who is white, is marrying an Hispanic man. She finally gave up finding a cake-topper that depicts an inter-racial couple. (My own daughter avoided the problem by having a topper especially made depicting bride and groom as lovers from a favorite cartoon. Odd that no one commented on the inter-species romance depicted!)

I think there is a killing to be made in the un-tapped market of real weddings, where people get married who may not all be blond and blue-eyed.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:54 AM
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16. I have a friend who is starting one
I think she'll be rich!
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tXr Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:04 AM
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17. It is called the 'wedding' or 'bridal industry'
and it is a total load of BS! I, for one, ignore those unrealistic, overpriced doorstops also known as bridal magazines, since all they are trying to do (and succeeding, in many cases) is sell the myth of the 'perfect wedding' to a specific market.
I would be more concerned in the art of staying married than the act of getting married. I have never been married, but it seems such a waste to spend so extravagantly on a rather brief ceremony, just one day in what is supposed to be the rest of one's life. Hell, get married at the local JP and donate the money otherwise spent (wasted?) on the (often too glitzy) event to any of millions of worthy causes.
Just some BS from someone who has no idea what they're talking about!
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:13 AM
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18. To some people its a religious ceremony
just sayin'
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tXr Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:25 AM
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19. True. I was thinking more of the ostentatious, waay over the top
weddings that those magazines help, in their own way, to promote. A wedding, including religious ceremony if that is the choice of the couple, can be tastefully done without spending thousands of dollars.

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TheRovingGourmet Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:00 AM
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32. I've had too many friends put all their efforts into thinking about
the wedding but little into thinking about the marriage. Needless to say, not many of their marriages worked out.

With the advances in digital photography, many grooms would be perfectly happy to have a stand-in at all that tedious wedding/reception nonsense. A little Photoshop and mom-in-law gets her pictures and the groom can go have fun with the guys, who also have stand-ins. :)
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:51 AM
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22. I came to that conclusion
Those magazines tended to make a lot of assumptions. They tended to assume that you needed at least a year to plan your wedding. They assumed that would be the main focus of your life during that year. They assumed that you would be having an elaborate banquet. They assumed that the reception would be a more formal adult party as opposed to a reception closer to either a family reunion or college frat party. They assumed that you would want this event to be drawn out as long as possible. They assume that you need to look perfect and that your bridesmaids need to look perfect. They assume that you will include every formal tradition. They assume that you have $20,000 or more to spend on this event. They assume that it will just be terrible if everything isn't perfect.
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YoQuieroLiberty Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:33 AM
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I asked that question once
when I worked in a store that sold them. I was told by a group of black women that those magazines are for "insecure white girls" who worry about how they look and how much money they spend, rather than just having a good time with family and friends.

Ouch. Probably a large grain of truth to it, too.
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YoQuieroLiberty Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:33 AM
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20. I asked that question once
when I worked in a store that sold them. I was told by a group of black women that those magazines are for "insecure white girls" who worry about how they look and how much money they spend, rather than just having a good time with family and friends.

Ouch. Probably a large grain of truth to it, too.
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YoQuieroLiberty Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:33 AM
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21. I asked that question once
when I worked in a store that sold them. I was told by a group of black women that those magazines are for "insecure white girls" who worry about how they look and how much money they spend, rather than just having a good time with family and friends.

Ouch. Probably a large grain of truth to it, too.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 11:37 AM
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24. The 'bridal industrial complex' is a billion-dollar industry
Edited on Sun Aug-22-04 11:38 AM by catzies
encompassing food, flowers and frocks. The amount of money being spent on A SINGLE DAY in one's life is appalling to me.

The mainstream bridal mags appeal to their demographic - Bridezillas and Mothers of Bridezillas, who were probably once Bridezillas themselves.

Just say NO to 'B.I.T.C.H.' Bridal Industrial Total Commercial Hegemony!
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:35 AM
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25. LOL!!! Awesome!
that is funny!
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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:43 AM
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26. On the positive side
Perhaps the people selling these magazines realise that Blacks and Hispanics are not as easily ripped off as their idiotic white counterparts?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:38 AM
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31. Or they don't have as much to rip off
if you see what I'm gettin' at
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:52 AM
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27. Speaking of...
Have you ever noticed that Bon Appetit magazine is populated almost entirely by frolicking white people, chardonnay in hand, laughing at their witty table conversation. and the only minority faces you generally find in it are the kitchen help? And - get this - the frolicking white people just looooove ethnic food!

Gourmet magazine is like this as well - it's so glaringly noticable I stopped reading both of them. I like Saveur, which actually features ethic people cooking ethnic food. Imagine that.
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Blue Wally Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:20 AM
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29. Hunting and fishing magazines
are pretty much white, as are yachting, boating, and car magazines. You go to your target audience.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:37 AM
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30. Yes - Saveur Magazine is excellent - good call!
:thumbsup:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:13 AM
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28. Totalmente caca!
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:33 AM
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33. To pick up a bridal mag
you have to be a weightlifter. I think they discriminate against those without upper body strength.

These mags and cultural expectations of the materialistic "traditional" American marriage are every bit as cumbersome as Marley's chains.
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