Do the al-Qaeda Sleeper agents in America really hate Americans?

I'm having some trouble figuring this out and would like y'all's input.

I'm figuring the sleeper agents that we were told were in America after 9/11 have learned to like Americans, and living in general.

Why else wait to attempt a suicide bombing? They're in America because they hate it and damn near all Americans, right? They want to kill Americans and they're master, bin Laden, would certainly ask them to.

What are they waiting for? An election of all things?

I'm not complaining, believe me. I'm glad that nobody has deemed terrorist actions in America necessary for nearly three years since
9/11.

But who is making that decision?

Something supposedly spurred 19 crazed, anti-American, Muslim U.S. residents to give up their lives, while taking thousands of innocent victims with them.

From what the FBI says, these guys were not short on cash, lived a less than boring life and had of course, just learned to fly.

I've never learned to fly, but I've heard it can be very life affirming. I believe it.

Not life affirming for these guys, I guess. They just wanted to use that knowledge to kill themselves and others, reportedly because a guy in a cave on the other side of the world wanted them to.

What actually motivated their attack on 9/11?

America had not openly attacked and gathered forces against any Muslim country since 1991.

We've done far worse since.

By hitting the Pentagon, a mastermind would know that he was starting a war with the U.S.

Didn't he plan a follow up?

Why are we so worried about a dirty bomb, when the sleeper agents can't even get their hands on TNT?

I've come to two possible conclusions.

1) The al-Qaeda sleeper agents actually like us!!!

2) There are no agents of al-Qaeda in America (and most probably never were).

#2 seems more likely to me.

Read up on Ali A. Mohamed.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x16762

Only if they are still breathing.... perhaps.

al-Qaeda attack timeline is longer than the PNAC timeline. While PNAC Zionists think in terms of four year election cycles, al-Qaeda thinks in terms of generations and centuries.

Israel is the central conflict between the Muslim world and the USA:
http://www.adl.org/terrorism_america/bin_l.asp

But this thread is on a different topic.

Please try to stay on topic. I'd appreciate the courtesy. :)

Do you think there are al-Qaeda sleeper agents in America?

If so, how do you imagine they have spent the last three years?

I answered it. If you don't like the answers, maybe you shouldn't ask the questions.

al-Qaeda doesn't need sleeper agents in the USA because GW Bush and the Homeland Security goons are doing the job Osama envisioned for them. al-Qaeda can cause all the disruption, economic and psychological damage they want with a videotape, satfone call or email.
ORANGE ALERT! Flush another $200 million down the toilet!

But telling me you think they don't need sleeper agents is not answering the question I asked you directly.

Not to be snippy, but you might guess that I'm trying to make a point.

Are there America-hating sleeper agents still living in the US three years after 9/11?

You really shouldn't believe every piece of anti-semitic disinformation someone tries to feed you.

I especially like "PNAC Zionists."

How are you going to get around al qaeda's utter lack of interest in Israel before 9/11?

Get back to me.

Just regurgitate convenient propaganda. "Osama wan't interested in Israel, blah blah blah" "Israel has nothing to do with the war on Islam" Sure, buddy. Only Israelis believe that!

I provide you with an ADL treference because I know you will believe a Jewish source is more credible than an Arab one.

Looks like Israel was a central issue to al-Qaeda since at least 1996 and probably alot longer than that.

http://www.adl.org/terrorism_america/bin_l.asp

February 1998 - Under the banner of the "International Islamic Front for Jihad on the Jews and Crusaders," bin Laden endorsed a fatwa, religious decree, to call for the liberation of Muslim holy places in Saudi Arabia and Israel, as well as the death of Americans and their allies. The decree says, "These crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger and Muslims."
May 1997 - During an interview with CNN, bin Laden reaffirms his call for a holy war against Americans. "We have focused our declaration of jihad on the U.S. soldiers inside Arabia…The U.S. government has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal through its support of the Israeli occupation of Palestine."

Bin Laden in an interview with CNN’s Peter Arnett: "If the American government is serious about avoiding the explosions inside the US, then let it stop provoking the feelings of 1,250 million Muslims. Those hundreds of thousands who have been killed or displaced in Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, do have brothers and relatives. They would make of Ramzi Yousef a symbol and a teacher. The US will drive them to transfer the battle into the United States."

May 1997 - Bin Laden reaffirmed his call for a holy war against Americans. "The US Government has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal through its support of the Israeli occupation of Palestine"
February 1997 - Bin Laden threatens holy war against the U.S. in an interview on the British documentary program, Dispatches. "This war will not only be between the people of the two sacred mosques and the Americans, but it will be between the Islamic world and the Americans and their allies because this war is a new crusade led by America against the Islamic nations."
November 1996 - Bin Laden issues an ultimatum to the U.S. and Western countries with troops stationed in Arab countries and declares a holy war against the "enemy." "Had we wanted to carry out small operations after our threat statement, we would have been able to… We thought that the two bombings in Riyadh and Dhahran would be enough (sic.) a signal to the wise U.S. decision-makers to avoid the real confrontation with the Islamic nation, but it seems they did not understand it."
November 1996 - Bin Laden warns U.S. forces in Saudi Arabia to expect more "effective, qualitative" attacks and advises Western forces to speed their "departure" from the Middle East.
August 1996 - Bin Laden says to the London-based al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper that the Saudis have a "legitimate right" to attack the5,000 American military personnel stationed in Saudi Arabia. "The presence of the American crusader armed forces in the countries of the Islamic Gulf is the greatest danger and the biggest harm that threatens the world’s largest oil reserves… The infidels must be thrown out of the Arabian Peninsula."
August 1996 - Bin Laden issued a Declaration of jihad, holy war, entitled: "Message from Osama bin Laden to his Muslim Brothers in the Whole World and Especially in the Arabian Peninsula: Declaration of Jihad Against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Mosques; Expel the Heretics from the Arabian Peninsula."
August 1996 In an interview with The Independent, a London daily, bin Laden calls the June 1995 truck bomb in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia" the beginning of war between Muslims and the United States."
July 1996 - Bin Laden warns that the terrorists who bombed American soldiers in Saudi Arabia will also attack British and French military personnel. He said " was the result of American behavior against Muslims, its support of Jews in Palestine, and the massacre of Muslims in Palestine and Lebanon."

How can you say this? You think every Al Qaeda sleeper died on 9/11?

Religious madness motivated their actions 9/11. Sure they enjoyed beer and titty dancers. Especially since they knew their martyrdom would give them a free pass to heaven no matter what sins they committed on the way..

http://www.adl.org/terrorism_america/bin_l.asp

They have plenty of good reasons right here on earth.

I, personally, am absolutely convinced those beer-drinking, stripper-loving, cologne-wearing guys weren't piloting the planes. They didn't know they were terrorists, any more than Oswald knew hey was an assassin.

Mohamed Atta spent his entire adult life in secular western culture. People don't live where they hate, if HOME is preferable and possible. All of those guys were FREE to not come here. They were free to act like more pious Muslims. They didn't, because they didn't want to.

These guys live(d) in America because they like(d) it.

On edit:

Have you ever read the Operation Northwoods planning document? If you haven't, you should. Here it is:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

Back in 1962 the Pentagon was already ready to try a fake terror act, in which a REMOTELY FLOWN JET would be shot down.

The file is a pdf since it is a copy of the scanned documents recovered with the now defunct Freedom of Information Act. I've transcribed a very important bit:


a. An aircraft at Elgin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area.

At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases.

The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.


b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida.

From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Elgin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status.

The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being (sic) transmitting on the inter-national distress frequency a “MAY DAY” message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft.

The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal.

This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to “sell” the incident.





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If you try to tell me that this means nothing in the scheme of 9/11, you'll probably be ignored.

...whenever their CIA MK-Ultra programming requires it. Just like the Mossad programmed "suicide bombers" in Israel.

PNAC Mob! The most ruthless and well funded terrorist organization in the world!

Just a ruse to keep silly Americans terrified and to use as a convenient excuse to invade any country you choose.

That indicated that most of the hijackers had not, in fact, been in the U.S. for very long, and that a number of them lived together and did everything as a group, probably to keep everyone on board with the plan, prevent any second thoughts or defectors.

that makes you think we're surrounded by terrorists???

And I don't think the alleged hijackers were on a suicide mission. The whole story stinks.

that since there is this NEVER-ENDING threat meter, that their had to be terrorist in the states. If they exist, I would love to hear ideas on why they haven't blown anything in America up (or even tried) since 9/11?

Anybody help me with this?

Al-Qaeda in America. but if they are here, I don't see why they would come to like us just because they live here for a while? It is very possible to keep hate alive for many many years, I know because I have hated Bush 1 ever since I lost my job because of his policies. That has been a few years now. I am sure that if guys who hate us are here and have hate for us, they will be able to keep their hate alive until they get a chance to do something. But I don't know how many of them there are, or if they are here. I don't know a lot about terrorism. But i do know about hate, and a person can make it last for a life time believe me.

Virgins are nice but nothing compares to a good-old-all-american-whore before martyrdom.