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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:50 PM
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Zogby: Half of NYC and 40% of NY believe Bush LIHOP!!!!!
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 05:55 PM by Junkdrawer
LIHOP - Not just for wingnuts anymore...

Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and “Consciously Failed” To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New York’s Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals

On the eve of a Republican National Convention invoking 9/11 symbols, sound bytes and imagery, half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens overall say that some of our leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act," according to the poll conducted by Zogby International. The poll of New York residents was conducted from Tuesday August 24 through Thursday August 26, 2004. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/-3.5.

The poll is the first of its kind conducted in America that surveys attitudes regarding US government complicity in the 9/11 tragedy. Despite the acute legal and political implications of this accusation, nearly 30% of registered Republicans and over 38% of those who described themselves as "very conservative" supported the claim.

.....

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855


Um, I'm speechless.

Here's the LBN thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=788091&mesg_id=788091
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:56 PM
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1. Kick
:kick:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:58 PM
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2. This part got me:
3) the inexplicable and largely unreported collapse of the third WTC skyscraper on 9/11 - what was its number (28% of NYC area residents knew);

Another fine job by our media. I admit I didn't know a third tower fell either, and I consider myself very well informed, as I read several newspapers daily.

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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:12 PM
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11. video of mysterious collapse of wtc 7 here.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:59 PM
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3. With luck, New York State will not give its electoral points to *
This would be a BIG insult, and a justified one as too much has been released that shows * knew about it and did nothing.
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Blayde Starrfyre Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:03 PM
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4. 49.3% of NYC residents can draw obvious conclusions
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:03 PM
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5. I have to repeat this just to prove I actually read this correctly....
nearly 30% of registered Republicans and over 38% of those who described themselves as "very conservative" supported the claim.

The 'PUKES are starting to wake up to reality??

OK, I guess you atheists can throw out that whole "There is no God" thing now ;)
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:05 PM
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6. the other 59 percent are not paying attention
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:06 PM
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7. cool..
but what does "LIHOP" stand for?
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:09 PM
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9. let it happen on purpose
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:10 PM
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10. Let It Happen On Purpose....
as distinct from MIHOP - Made It Happen On Purpose.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:09 PM
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8. OK, I'm catching my breath....
Among other things, does this means the media has reached "Propaganda Overload", that point where the media bias is so obvious that people are filtering the media's messages?

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:12 PM
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12. And I'll tell you this too - Bush is shitting himself right now...
That is the one piece of news he did NOT want to hear.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:23 PM
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13. maybe becuase they have read more than the TV-idiots and connected
the dots...the media refuses to do
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:27 PM
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14. Wonder if they're going to poll other Americans about it.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:46 PM
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15. HOLY SHIT!!!
As a confirmed MIHOPer - I can't believe there are this many LIHOP believers out there!! Sheesh! How can this election possibly be close at all?! IT CAN'T BE! (We're being set up to be Diebolded!!)

:shrug:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:23 PM
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18. Something is screwy....
and I would have expected more of a DU reaction...
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CanIgonow Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:53 PM
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16. Ok.Let us get back to basics:
Let us ask these questions:

Who stood to benefit?
Who had the capability/
Who had the opportunity?
And who has stonewalled all impartial and open enquiry
into that disaster?

When you can honestly answer all these questions tell me how you can have a different opinion than the New Yorkers who hold that our
leader let it happen on purpose?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:01 PM
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17. Has any news media responded to this poll?
:shrug:

I just checked Google and got nothing.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:50 AM
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19. So far, only Scoop and 9/11 sites are covering it...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 07:05 AM
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20. New Yorkers
I wonder how many know about the faked EPA report of the Neo Fascists about the green light on the safety of the air around Ground Zero? was that in Gouliani's lame ass speech at the Con-vention?
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 07:59 AM
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21. (media) Action Request and news from 911Visibility.org
Just recieved this . . . Will be sending out letters to media today. Please join us!

___________________________________________________________
Dear 9/11 Truth activists and concerned citizens,

Below is an update from Nicholas Levis of ny911truth.org, on the
ground in New York, where hundreds of 9/11 truth activists have
converged along with half a million others who oppose war and empire.

Also, you should have received a few moments ago the recent Zogby Poll
revealing that half of New Yorkers believe the current administration
let 9/11 happen on purpose (LIHOP). I forgot to include the link to
the full poll report. Here it is:

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040830120349841

And please forward the link to as many others as you can, and request
they do the same. It is particularly important to forward it to media
outlets. Here is a link to our MONSTER MEDIA EMAIL LIST, where you can
copy and paste all day. So go to it! We have an incredible window of
opportunity at this time.

http://www.septembereleventh.org/mediaemails.php

Towards Peace and Truth,

Emanuel Sferios
Webmaster, 9/11 Visibility Project
http://www.septembereleventh.org
-----

An Update from Nicholas Levis, on the Ground in NYC:

Dear NY 9/11 Truth & Friends

On the heels of the last 3 amazing days, more big news and events are
coming up. Your presence is requested in force on Wednesday when Sibel
Edmonds speaks at the NOW-NYC "Code Red" Rally - the only womens'
rights demonstration during the RNC - and on Thursday at the Vigil for
Truth at Ground Zero. See below or go to http://www.nownyc.org and
http://summeroftruth.org

But first, a recap:

Friday, Aug. 27 we had a successful launch of the Convergence Space at
the Brecht Forum. Saturday we were present and had speakers at the
Greens Festival and marched a contingent down to the "ring-out" at
Ground Zero, chanting that the government was complicit in 9/11.
Crowds of people on the street literally burst into applause as we
marched by! Yesterday (Sunday) we got more than a thousand signs out
to the protesters and distributed many thousands of flyers, so that
everyone in the rally was aware of 9/11 truth. The signs were visible
on CNN (with comments) and on the front page of Newsday today.

Last night, we announced the amazing Zogby poll results to a large
group of peace and justice and Green leaders during a party at the
Brecht (henceforth to be known as The Historic Pizza). See
911Truth.org today for the lowdown: Half of New York City is going to
be surprised at what the other half has been thinking about Sept.
11th. And the other half - our half - will be surprised that they are,
in fact, the majority! Please check out the poll results and spread
the word by every means you have. Now the next big thing is the visit
to New York by Sibel Edmonds on Wednesday... Let us gather at the
Brecht Forum by 5 PM Wed. and go to the NOW-NYC Code Red rally with
the largest possible contingent. Thursday we will hold the Vigil for
Truth at Ground Zero for the first time on a weekday starting at 1PM.

See you Wednesday and Thursday, and hold your head high. Talk to your
neighbors, they are ready to hear the truth about Sept. 11.

Nicholas
_________________________________________________

http://septembereleventh.org/kc/multimedia/
_________________
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:03 AM
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22. Whaaaaaaat????
"The poll is the first of its kind conducted in America that surveys attitudes regarding US government complicity in the 9/11 tragedy. Despite the acute legal and political implications of this accusation, nearly 30% of registered Republicans and over 38% of those who described themselves as "very conservative" supported the claim.

The charge found very high support among adults under 30 (62.8%), African-Americans (62.5%), Hispanics (60.1%), Asians (59.4%), and "Born Again" Evangelical Christians (47.9%)."

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:05 AM
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23. And that's only because NY has followed the story more closely
NY is simply better informed on this story.
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