Someone, please explain to me why cutting taxes

and creating the largest budget deficit in history is such a great accomplishment? Can't any moron do that?

If a President cut taxes, provided necessary services, and balanced the budget, now he could pat himself on the back.

What this Asshole did was cut taxes to the benefit of the very wealthy, increased spending, but not on services the help those who need it most, squandered lives and treasure in a needless war built on lies, lost jobs, increased our foreign trade deficit, and brags about it as if he did something good.

I don't get it at all. Who falls for this shit?

See that is the biggest lie of the century

He cut taxes for who
I sure had to pay this year, when I have never had to
Single no deductions

And we are paying all of that interest on the debt, and that is
worse than higher taxes

I understand that his tax cut was bullshit.

But for the sake of argument, even if we concede that point, what idiot can't cut taxes and increase the debt? How is this an achievement instead of just a shell game?

...And invests in a new 40 ft Cigarette™ boat.
Eventually, he has to pay minimum wage to some kid to wash the boat.

BAM! Buxh job created.
7 million more tax cuts...And we'l ALL be on easy street.

Fuzzy math

or

Voodoo economics

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It's a cheap practical joke that will tell you you're "an idiot."

Google it and read for yourself.

You appeal to people based on fear, greed, lust, hatred, selfishness or some other base thing.

Then you give them a tissue of lies that they can use to deal with unpleasant realities: The economy is crappy, just say that it is good; The wars are going badly, just say that they are going well. Throw in some BS about how this is all coming from God, the Bible, etc... And voila you are home free.

Your followers can act out their basest desires, have an answer for everything and cover it all in the mantle of "holiness". (A pretty good scam if you ask me.)

And if someone has the temerity to point all this out, well then what Cheney said... and try to crush them.

One of my favorite movies, "Hero" said it best: "...there ain't no truth. All there is is bullshit, pardon my vulgarity here. Layers of it. One layer of bullshit on top of another. And what you do in life like when you get older is, you pick the layer of bullshit that you prefer and that's your bullshit, so to speak."

I might argue somewhat differently, but this is the essential premise that the neos are using. (And using pretty effectively, I would say.)

The neos are just creating a layer of bullshit for their followers to live in, and drawing these followers there with promises of (dirty little) rewards.

You might think that the "truth" (a clearer perspective, perhaps), would be easily able to break through this. But what matters for something like a vote is what is in people's heads, not what is "out there".

Of course I would not suggest that we should give up putting the truth forward, just that we should realize that many people are well armored against it and are rather afraid that it might interfere with their self interest.

social spending will need to be cut (Medicare, SS, Medicaid, etc.) to reduce the deficit. The neocons don't think the government should be spending any money on social issues.

We all know they want to cut taxes so they, and their super-rich college buddies and fellow industry executives, can have more cash to play around with. This has nothing to do with helping any segment of America that isn't the top x%.

What changes every administration is the story they use to sell the tax cuts. In the 80's with Reagan, it was the Laffer Curve. Bush 1 had trickle-down economics. Bush 2 is trying to sell a modified form of trickle-down, but at heart it's the same concept: Give rich people more money, to spend and put into the economy.

And that, on the surface, sounds interesting until you realize that:

1) Poor (or middle class) people need the money much more than rich people do.
2) Poor (or middle class) people are more likely to spend money than rich people. They're rich - what aren't they buying already? They're far more likely to save the money.
3) The economic theory that says lowering taxes boosts the economy also says increasing government spending boosts the economy, and at a greater pace. Bush already ran a massive deficit, so he could have increased spending the same amount he cut taxes by, and we'd have the same budget results with a stronger economy, plus more programs for the people that need it most.

They really want to sell you on this "rich people help the economy most" line. And that's true - one rich person has more impact than one poor person. 1 rich person, however, does not have more impact than 100 poor and middle class people. Unless you're George Soros or Bill Gates or someone with assets greater than the GDP of some countries.