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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:21 AM
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What is the "Ownership Society"?
The encouragement of an "ownership society" has been one of the central messages of His Chimperial Majesty's campaign for re-deification.

He says it so often -- and as a term it is so charmingly vague -- that I instinctively have grave misgivings over what criminality and corruption he is hiding behind it.

What is the "ownership society" as peddled to the sheeple, and what is it *really*? There has always been a hidden agenda behind every one of King George's pet projects, and the names of these projects are always some kind of code word.

I see it as a way for the rapacious and unprincipled among us to swallow up the property and wealth of the meek or moderate. There will be no bureaucracy or functional judicial system to stand in between the hemorraging of modest property to the facist pirates. "Ownership" means you will have something that they will be able to very easily relieve you of, and for which you will have absolutely no legal recourse, and no safety net.

As Bush saying "It's YOUR money!" really means, "It's MY money!"

Most Americans took a very big hit in 2000 when the market crashed. And yet we are supposed to trust that the "adults" are right about this, and that everything that was wrong about the market at that time has been fixed and we should have total confidence in the system now? BS -- it's part of a hidden agenda....
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:23 AM
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1. Buzzword for the destruction of social security
He's selling ownershp of stocks to all the 20 somethings who don't realize that they're going to get old and sick, too, and that stock markets are not going to go up again like they did in the 1990s for a very, very long time.

It's a moronic buzzword uttered by morons and targeted toward morons.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:23 AM
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2. diving the people into 2 classes: workers and land owners
only the land owners will get to vote, and the workers will be damn lucky if they get fed at night.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:23 AM
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3. It means
everyone for themselves. A paradise for the rugged individualist who wishes to carry his own mail, hire his own police force, bury his own garbage, and educate his own (and only his own) children.

In other words, feudalism. Welcome to the dark ages, all over again.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:24 AM
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4. "Ownership"
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 11:24 AM by LibertyChick
is code to morons who believe Bush that "we are not government commie share-the-wealth types like Kerry and the Dems".

Ownership also means that that own you, body and soul.

I agree, it's a vague term.

I for one don't want to "own" decent health insurance, I just want to have access to it and pay premiums that are in line with my salary.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:29 AM
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5. Simple: the top 20% own everything....
including the 80% peons at the bottom. It's only fair, they are after all the ones who create the jobs!
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DBtv Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:38 AM
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8. 20% HELL! Try 2%.
It will hardly be so generous.
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PeaceProgProsp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:31 AM
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6. It means selling all parts of New Deal to huge banks, insurance co's
and energy companies.

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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:35 AM
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7. You will be paying
for your entire health care premium rather than your employer (who can well afford it) contributing to it. You will not get the SS you paid into your entire working life and probably no pension, instead you will be gambling with your retirement money (if you can even afford to after paying for health care) in the stock market. You will not be "given" even that to which you are entitled, you instead will pay for everything and therefore you will be an "owner" which is so much better. :eyes:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:40 AM
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9. It's a focus-group tested, CATO-approved "brand name"...
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 11:40 AM by JHB
...used to make a pretty, flattering-your-sensibilities wrapper for the same old list of feed-the-rich, bleed-the-poor, and loot-the-middle policies the Repugs have been pushing for 20 year, only moreso.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:41 AM
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10. ARGENTINA........google Argentina+IMF and you got your answer...n/t
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:42 AM
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11. An "I own your ass" Society...
...is what "the Ownership Society" really means.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:42 AM
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12. It's the * administration's way of saying...
.. you are on your own.

* We're bankrupting the country and SS will not be there for you so take ownership and put $$ away for retirement.

* We are letting corporations outsource your job, so take ownership and start a small business.

* We are letting drug companies write their own tickets so take ownership and get supplemental health coverage.

All in hopes that the economy will turn around during the next four years and that during that time, the rotten job they are doing on the economy will remain transparent. And when folks start wising up and complaining about the state of the economy, the *ies will be able to say, "Don't look at us, we told you to join the Ownership Society".
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:54 AM
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15. Of course! "Choice" and "Personal Responsibility"
As an "OwnerTM" you have the "Personal ResponsibilityTM" to make the right "ChoicesTM"

So when the facist pirates give it to you up the ass and take away everything you have, it will ONLY be because **you** made "poor choices" for which your must take "personal responsibility." By then, all the "frivolous lawsuits" will have been done away with, and you will have no recourse -- no recourse at all, and you won't even be able to vote your way out of it this time.

I love it when they defend their policies, saying that they are intended to help "Moms and Dads." How sweet. How quaint. Too bad it's not honest. The only "Moms and Dads" they seek to help are moms and dads like Ken and Linda Lay, Dick and Gorgon Cheney, and Poppy and Babs.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 12:00 PM
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18. Nevermind that
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 12:05 PM by HughBeaumont
owning a business is more or less a crapshoot, as is playing the market. The message here is "You're future . . . is a gamble. Oh, but there'll still be rich people. That's not a PROBLEM, is it?"

This administration sucks.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:43 AM
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13. Private ownership of assets...public ownership of liabilities..
That's how the rich always get richer.. they use OPM for their schemes,skim off the profits, and OOPS..the little investors are screwed, but the guys at the top still "own" their nest eggs..

By "ownership", they also shift any "blame".. if you end up losing, you must have done something "wrong"..too bad..you lose
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:44 AM
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14. Formula for BushCo phrases: words = the opposite of their true meaning...
"Mission Accomplished" -- hardly.
"No Child Left Behind" -- all children left behind.
"Clear Skies Initiative" -- open season for industrial polluters.
"Healthy Forests Initiative" -- open season for the logging industry.
And so on. The pattern is apparent.

By appealing to basic greed (and need), the phrase "ownership society" is a smokescreen designed to make the privatization of Social Security (and practically everything else) appear as if it's good for the individual.

It's not.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 12:02 PM
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19. Indeed
Mr Rove's tactics:

1) Attack head-on your opponent's strength.

2) Relentless accuse your opponent of attempting to do what you plan to do, i.e. LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING. It makes it appear as though you disapprove, and could NEVER be capable of such sins yourself, and the sheep fall for it again and again.

3) Give rapacious policies pretty names. And big big smiles.

You're all right -- "Ownership" is the code word for "gutting social security and turning American Workers into serfs and corporate mercenaries."
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:57 AM
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16. Feudalism, basically. n/t
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:58 AM
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17. Kudos on your one-word synopsis
that describes this B.S. perfectly. :thumbsup:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 12:21 PM
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20. it's another GOP con job
nothing more, nothing less
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