Government Insider Says Bush Authorized 911 Attacks

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I just got sent this very interesting link to the above named article dated September 17, 2004 and thought I'd share it with my fellow conspiracy theorists out there. :D

<<< Keep in mind when reading this, that the man being interviewed is no two-bit internet conspiracy buff.

Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R) and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous man has risked his professional reputation, and possibly his life, to get this information out to people. >>>

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<<< SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It's not just incompetence - in spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point, there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th - when those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the words about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal. These people had dress-rehearsed this many times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a California press conference when he said he had, quote, "seen on television the first plane attack the first tower." And that could not be possible because there was no video. What it was was the simulated video that he had gone over. So this was a personally government-ordered thing. We are suing them under the Constitution for violating Americans' rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under the RICO statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being a corrupt entity. And I've been harassed personally by the chief judge of the federal court who is instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick me off the court, after 30 years on the court. I've been harassed by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My office has been broken into and this is the kind of government we are dealing with. >>>

link to this article:

http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm

So, whatcha all have to say re: this? Pretty damn interesting IMO and it sure explains the statement by *: "seen on television the first plane attack the first tower."

What did you really see and know Mr. Booosh?

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is anybodys guess , and i don't rule out anything this bunch of out laws do

too many warnings about terrorists planning to crash planes into buildings since 1995

thing on real-time radar in the WH, while it was happening just to make sure the 5-drill fakeout was successful!

http://fromthewilderness.com/PDF/Commonwealth.pdf

Alex Jones.

I have friends and colleagues who believe the NeoCons let it happen, but they find it hard to bring themselves to believe they would be as devious to actively plan the 9/11 attacks. On this I disagree. I believe these people who are now in power wanted to bring America back to the way it was in the 1950s which to them was America's Golden Age. And the way to make that happen was to plant fear and paranoia in the American people. So much fear that Americans would be willing to forego their rights and become like children putting all the power in big Daddy government's hands. And I'm sure there are other "rewards" that I cannot imagine. The loss of a thousand American lives to achieve that end was considered collateral damage.

reliable source.

Usually, they are simply ahead of the curve, like most of us here are.

But, this article appeared other places, so the fact that a psychotic individual like Rense runs with it doesn't mean anything here.

I said the fact that Jeff "The Holocaust Never Happened" Rense runs with a story doesn't mean it's untrue--the source was already posted here.

But, Rense is a grade A psychotic and Nazi apologist. And anyone who thinks that Rense has any credibility needs to be whacked with a clue bat.

Seriously, linking to Holocaust denial sites is just plain icky.

thought you meant "here" at the DU.

All apologies.

...stuff denying the holocaust ever happened. Most of us can pick out the stuff worth considering and discard the rest...why can't you?

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA


TAXPAYERS OF UNITED STATES OF CASE NO. CIV-03-03927-SI
AMERICA , UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, ET AL.,
PLAINTIFFS, SECOND AMENDED COMPLAINT
FOR DAMAGES, INJUNCTION AND DECLARATORY RELIEF

JURY TRIAL DEMANDED

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA; DICK
CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT; GEORGE TENET,
CIA DIRECTOR; ROBERT MUELLER, FBI
DIRECTOR; CONDOLEEZA RICE, NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISER JOHN ASHCROFT,
ATTORNEY GENERAL; UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA , ET AL.,
DEFENDANTS.

http://deprogram.info

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It's one big propaganda war. Sounds like this guy is on our side.
That's good enough for me cause bush* has got to go!

Bush might be a bit of an irrelevancy in most "security" matters.

I did see this link on another part of this board and it gave me goose bumps when I read it. I have always thought there was something weird about the whole thing from the beginning. Whenever I mention this to anyone, they just sort of ignore my statements. I know that we actually saw the film of the planes crashing into the towers, but what made me wonder about this whole thing was the pictures of the Pentagon and the Pennsylvania crashes. Don't you usually see debris from the planes, like clothing, suitcases, parts of the planes (especially the tail of the plane)? I didn't see any of that in those photos. Even if the planes disintegrated, wouldn't there be something? Maybe I didn't see the entire photo, or there were more pictures I didn't see. Someone please educate me on this if you can. I am not convinced by just a hole in the ground or extensive damage to the Pentagon. They could have faked those two crashes. Maybe I'm nuts, but I need to know if anyone else noticed this.

For sometime now, a lot of us have been asking the same thing.... just give us one good picture that conclusively proves that an airliner hit the pentagon.

Nope. Three years later and not one pic.

Ya gotta wonder why the evidence held so close by the FBI is not freely handed out, eh?

Welcome, vduhr, welcome to the nightmare that is 9/11.

I love this site -- you guys are great!

I spent days pouring over pictures of the Pentagon crash and couldn't find any hard evidence of it having been a plane. There sure is alot of hard evidence against it though...

Luggage, seats, clothing, body parts...all missing. Flash video here

http://pages.infinit.net/noc/pentagon.swf

the "plane didn't hit the pentagon" crap has LONG been debunked and that flash video ranks with creationist crap for outright lies. Some DUers were among the hundreds of eyewitnesses to the plane hitting the Pentagon for crist sake.

Here, read some real info and not the RW crap that rense and his fans promote.


http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

911 The day the conspiracy stopped being a theory.:scared:

From 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.21A.pitt.watchtower.htm
SNIP.."All Along the Watchtower
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Opinion

Thursday, 20 June, 2002

Stanley Hilton, a San Francisco attorney and former aide to Senator Bob Dole, filed a $7 billion lawsuit in U.S. District Court on June 3rd. The class-action suit names ten defendants, among whom are George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Norman Mineta.

Hilton's suit charges Bush and his administration with allowing the September 11th attacks to take place so as to reap political benefits from the catastrophe. Hilton alleges that Osama bin Laden is being used as a scapegoat by an administration that ignored pressing warnings of the attack and refused to round up suspected terrorists beforehand. Hilton alleges the ultimate motivation behind these acts was achieved when the Taliban were replaced by American military forces with a regime friendly to America and its oil interests in the region......"

From 2004
"Stanley Hilton falls on a hand grenade for America"
http://www.bopnews.com/archives/001578.html

I'm firmly in the LIHOP camp and nothing these creeps in the WH do would surprise me.

There are a lot of unanswered questions and a lot of information that is still being hidden and suppressed. We never got the true story on Iran-Contra and a lot of what has happened ever since has roots in that time period and earlier, going back to Operation Condor.

Sibel Edmonds is on the list.
All parties involved in thwarting investigations will be on the
deposition list (eg. Dave Frascas, ect.)
AA http://www.guerrillanews.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=state&Number=290106&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&part=

HA, I'm a LIHOP also. However with my ATC training and was stationed at a NORAD facility (Hancock Field/Syracuse NY) I know in my bones nothing worked by the book that day and for the life of me I can't understand why not, unless it worked exactly as someone wanted it to turn out.

Thanks for the link.

stood down that day? What if no one from the top took control? Would NORAD still function properly? Or would they end up like a bunch of chicken with their heads cut off, because the Pentagon and/or the WH went on ignore for 2 hours?

They don't believe in photographic evidence. They don't believe in personal expertise. They don't believe anybody who says they actually saw anything. The only thing they believe are their own delusions. If you challenge them they will attack you.

by Senator Bob Graham. He is detailing the actions of the terrorists as they are massing, training, and planning the 9/11.

Where the rense article says:

"The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush."

There is some vagueness in this wording about the landlord. Graham says that the San Diego landlord was an undercover agent, but didn't get any information from the FBI about the two guys who lived with him so didn't suspect them.

Graham is spelling out in detail time and again when the FBI and CIA just let the ball drop or otherwise blundered.

Think it would have had to involve too many people for the senario in the rense article to be true.

However, I do believe that much of the circumstances point to at the very least bush and cheney letting it happen, with rice perhaps in on it too, but maybe just too inept to do her job and them counting on it. I think the plane hit the pentagon, people saw it happen. I also think, since Rumsfeld was there and not protected, that maybe he didn't know in advance. Maybe they didn't care whether he bought it or not, or maybe they didn't know where the damage would be happening for sure, just knew it wouldn't be Florida (and wasn't Cheney already in the bunker?)

when I went to the rense website. The text started scrolling on its own really fast. I got back to DU and same thing. I shut down my browser and the scrolling was going on with my desktop.

Anyone know what that is? I restarted the computer and it seems okay, but did I get a bug from the rense website?

but it has nothing to do with the rense site. You should download and run ad-aware from www.download.com. Hopefully, this will solve you problem.

I run this program every few days as there are plenty of these "bugs" all over the internet in case you haven't noticed.

Cheers! :toast:

baldearg

Will check it out.

Sucks.

Period.

Like someone said previously, its not reliable, whatsoever.

this article appeared other places.

If this guy is so smart, how did he forget who installed this corrupt regime?

The book, "Votescam" was prefaced with:

"May you have a lawsuit where you know you're right." --Old Gypsy curse.

Sometimes people file a lawsuit that isn't winnable, hoping that the publicity it generates might make a difference. But we know who owns the media here.

If the evidence is sufficient, the suit should be filed in a world court, even though the U.S. doesn't recognize such jurisdiction. But asking the people (SCOTUS) who installed the chimp, to uphold any decision that might bring him and his gang to justice, is a joke.

I've just started reading a book called, "The Children of NAFTA." After Clinton got NAFTA through, all kinds of horrible things started happening to workers in Mexico, and Senator David Bonior called upon Vice President Gore for help in enforcing what little legal protections the workers had left. He did exactly what he was later to do about the Florida 2000 fraud: NOTHING.

When you're a pawn on a chessboard, it doesn't look as if the players are each trying to win. It looks like they're in cahoots to wipe you out. Chances are they really are trying to win--maybe they hate each other, but the results are the same. It doesn't take a conspiracy. And the lucky pawn that becomes a queen starts wiping out pawns, because that's what power does.

All you have to do to understand Fascism is look at the people who were put in concentration camps. In addition to Jews, there were Gypsies, Communists, homosexuals, Catholics, trade unionists--in fact almost anybody who wasn't a fascist was probably a member or a sympathizer of some group that was used for slave labor. The whole point of maximizing profits is to utilize slave labor because it is the only way to eliminate wages. Whatever has to be done to terrorize and suppress us will be done, so the scenario is perfectly plausible. But the idea that a LAWSUIT would do any good is the height of stupidity.

Before we can have any hope at all we need a non-fascist regime, a non-fascist majority on the Supreme Court and in Congress, and a world coalition strong enough to wipe out fascism. A lawsuit filed by a former fascist (I believe it says that he originally wrote the scenario for what has happened as his thesis), posted on the website of a known fascist, and pretending that justice can be obtained in the fascist courts of a fascist country, may be precisely correct in every detail of its allegations without inspiring the least bit of hope.

Okay, past my bedtime. Sorry.

I listened to the entire "radio interview" on the prisonplanet.tv site. At the end of the interview it became obvious that the site was dedicated to very libertarian, anti-government philosophy. This may seem relatively harmless and a bit over the top, but it is potentially very dangerous. They would argue, along with the anti-corporate folks, that Democrats/Republicans and Kerry/Bush are all part of the same conspiracy. I don't know if Mr. Hilton himself feels this way, maybe he was just looking for someone to give him web exposure. I would like to believe that we are still a democracy and have a choice. The fact that the PNAC site is posting memos arguing against Edward's proposal for how to deal with Iran gives me hope:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iran-20040902.htm

Fascism should be called corporatism because it is the merging of state and corporate power, at least that's what Mussolini said.

I just wanted to point out that being opposed to the corporate structure globally and domestically and recognizing that politics on all sides is dominated by corporate control and moneyed interests does not mean you're a conspiracy nut.

It is not true that there is no difference between parties or candidates. It is true however that both parties and candidates represent a tiny, tiny fraction of the full political spectrum and that the spectrum of political choice in this country is largely limited - and that limitation comes in part via the control of corporations over the media and over politics via money.

We take about 10% of the political spectrum and label that the "acceptable mainstream" of politics, then talk about what great freedom we have and how great it is to live in a country of real choices. I'm not trying to do nothing by rant - but I don't know how to change things. Somehow we need to open the system up more freely to a greater range of political discourse and destroy the monopoly of big business over our political choices.

support constructive, versus destructive, objectives and do not throw all their support behind a utopian president who offers those at the top huge tax breaks. It is not every corporation's goal to "merge with the state." Just as we are seeing some Republican senators distance themselves from Bush, I think we'll begin seeing certain companies doing the same, hopefully ones that are involved with the Media (c'mon Time-Warner, do what is right!)

If there ever comes a time where corporations are more important to a nation than the people, and both parties acknowledge this, then we may have to worry about secret military projects going after the people. But for now, how do you feel about the Democratic party?

believing Saudis would give up their lives for an order by bush. They may have very well let it happen but ordering it would be very difficult.

"The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered."

And these guys volunteered suicide?!?!?!?!
For what?????

Get a grip.