I went down to the local gun shop to buy an assult rifle

and had to wait in line. In front of me were three skinheads and a cop. How many of you are thinking about getting armed? I realize this is not a pro gun forum, but I don't want to be the only one on the block w/o a defense system.

Oh wait, that's not actually a defense against anything ....

To make sure you or a family member won't get shot by accident.

Wouldnt want to take out an incoming ICBM accidentally.

funny

A "trigger guard" is the strip of metal that encircles the trigger. It keeps stuff from snagging on the trigger and pulling it. All guns have had them for hundreds of years. (Exception: derringer style pistols.)

A "trigger lock" is a device that attaches to the gun and prevents it from being fired until it is removed.

I don't think much of them. If I need a gun to defend my home, I am going to need it in a hell of a hurry. I don't think an intruder will pay attention if I say, "Wait a bit while I take off the trigger lock."

Buying a gun is a big responsibility. Unless you are willing to really learn how they work, and how to use them, you should leave them alone. Yes, I own several guns. I am a Vietnam veteran, and a licensed Private Investigator.

people need to own guns to protect against a tyrannical government. when governments do a gun grab, they then can easily enslave the population.

but I was told they were semi-auto and would fire 30-round clips.

A magazine fed firearm can be reloaded in less than a second, (Assuming proficiency with the gun.)so the number of rounds in the mag doesn't really mean that much. It is very rare for a shoot out to involve more than a few rounds. Usually less than three.

There is LOTS of really bad information about guns that is believed by many liberals.

My personal position of guns is that a person should need a license, similar to a drivers license just to have one, but once they have the license, then they could have a many as they wanted.

Tens, hundreds, thousands, millions ?

Isnt there any concept of personal use here ?

Where's the line between being an owner/user and dealer or a private armory ?

Just no telling what sort of crap is gonna go down. Should I get an Uzi or an AK-47? I've been told these are mostly useless for anything except making a spray of bullets - sounds pretty cool though.

actually. I guess large clip magazines and handling features make the thing seem cooler.

Lol...Thank you.:thumbsup:

that reminded me of my mom. "Put that away, you'll poke somebody's eye out".

a pistol. Both have their advantages over rifles. The shotgun has the much larger "shot pattern" and can be effective for a hundred meterss or so (you don't have to aim very much)...a pistol is much better at close range because it isn't nearly as heavy or unwieldy. Maybe one of each. We do have "assault" guns (grandfathered in for many years) and they're very effective in scaring the shit out of someone but not all that good for actual defense (the laser sights are as scary as the weapon itself, though)...since their accurate range isn't all that great (short barrels, usually, so they aren't much better than a good S&W .38 with a 4 inch bbl if you can manage a halfway decent shot. Just some random thughts...

an assault rifle - I will definitely get something just as a symbol if anything if that Dumb ass is reelected. Plus, the damned rifle is not much good at defending against an intruder anyway.

shoot it, though.

half an hour! Just follow a few simple rules: NEVER POINT your gun at anything you aren't intending to shoot at, NEVER ASSSUME A GUN IS UNLOADED, Never keep it within reach of children (duh) and don't keep the shells/ammo in the same place unlesss you know for SURE kids can't get to them. (We violate that last rule because we almost never have kids in the house and on the rare occasion we do, we put the guns in the safe.) I'm not a fan of "trigger locks"...that seems to be a cop-out to me that allows the open/public storage or display of firearms that just ask for attention (and mischief.)

I've heard there were some severe loopholes in this law anyway. I heard that if the gun manufacturers modified their weapons to not look like military style they could sell them on the market and get past the law. They would be the exact same type of weapon but they would just look a little different. Anyone know about this? If that's so it seems to me like it's good that it's gone. If people want a new law that actually works they can now ask for one.

The AK-47 makers used to sell an "AK-47 Sporter." It had a Kalashnikov action but a stock that didn't have a "separate pistol grip."



This gun doesn't have a "separate pistol grip." It was legal to sell this gun during the ban.



These guns have "separate pistol grips." It was not legal to sell this gun during the ban because of its clearly menacing features.

The only reason to buy an AK, unless you were planning to become a gangsta and wanted a menacing-looking gun, is that it's fun to shoot it. It weighs a ton, it kicks like a mule and it doesn't have great accuracy. It's made to shoot people at moderate range. This it does well.

In reality, the ban was as full of holes as a windowscreen, so its lapse is good. Maybe they'll get a real ban next time.

about. So afraid of everything they fall for the con of the arms dealers. They are conning you by keeping you frightened 24/7 and you are falling for it! What a sucker. They are laughing all the way to the bank.

I'm curious.

Who do you need defending from? Your husband? Brother? Uncle? Son?
Does your wife need defending from you?

Those people comprise the majority of those against whom, and who use guns, on each other. Stranger to stranger attacks are nothing short of a miracle, in reality. Most people are attacked by persons known to them.

Guns are rarely, RARELY used to defend one's self, unless one IS a criminal, in which case, I hope you don't kill anyone else while living your pathetic, criminal life.

Guns in fact, take the lives of more children, accidentally, in the home, than are used to defend ones' self against criminals.

They're just kind of silly.

tanks, etc, etc.

Although I don't think the really effective equalizers--AKs & RPG7s--are on sale, so I guess you still have a point.

please ,,if i had a nice home somewhere to protect i'd have 2 rotweilers. ..

and people in a warzone. This might be one within a few years, though until then we just have the microdicks with giant trucks and hummers to wade through.

...to neutralize large dogs, and the people that own them.

By the way, another reason to own a gun is to shoot the keecaps off people that accuse you of having a small dick.

know where to shoot it (I am a dog AND cat lover, we have 3 and 1, the latest canine addition is a pup that showed up in the driveway 3 weeks ago...we ALMOST shot it - many people dump unwanted animals out here in our lakeside community; people adopt most of them but there are too many left to starve or become roadkill), so please don't get me wrong here...anyway dogs won't protect you against a nutball meaning to do you harm. Just a couple weeks ago, a drunken teenager shot his next-door neighbor and damn near killed him a few blocks from here (we know both of them)...the guy who got shot was unarmed. If that little prick had come around HERE with his gun, he'd be very dead instead of out on bail.

All I'm sayin' is that things are near critical mass, and it might come down to something like in 1776...I actually believe it's coming to that point. So...we do what we can. K?

I recently bought a (post AWB sunset) so-called "Assault Rifle" and my reasons have absolutely nothing at all to do with sex or my penis. That is ludicrous. This is one area where my politics depart from the general consensus of our party. One where a government thinks they know what is best for me.

I live in Arizona, and adhering to that philosophy, the government should ban swimming pools. Many more kids drown in pools each year here than they do by getting shot - by any type of firearm

... as I am a paranoid freak myself, but in reality most of us (well, me anyway) would pee our pants if confronted with a gun. Statistics show the majority of people killed in "home invasions" and burglaries are shot by there own guns, i.e. the gun was taken from them and shoved up their ass by a psycho with nothing to lose. My "defense system" would be to run like hell.

Besides, I grew up around a lot of peckerwood gun-nuts (my whole family!) and I can't think of a group of people I would LESS like to be associated with.

gun people are not the type i like to be around. Seems to be so much about "protectin the home and the little lady" and this is my property line crap. freeper city. and if ya dont like what i have to say your gonna shoot my "keecaps"-loser -

I've done a lot of shooting, but never owned a gun in my life. That will probably change.

I'm not a gun nut; the "little fella" works just fine, thanks, and is within standard dimensions; and I drive a four-cylinder Toyota. I also happen to believe that the Second Amendment is a means to keep our government from becoming tyrannical.

My boyfriend taught me how to shoot guns 4 decades ago, and I've loved them ever since. Besides targets <which are fun>, I've only had to use my gun 'on purpose' on two occasions.

I live waaaaaay out in the country, by the way.....

Once I had to shoot AT a buzzard that was about to go after a wounded baby puppy. When I had tried to "shoo" the buzzard away, he started hopping toward me real fast, flapping his wings and making threatening 'statements'. So, I ran in the house and got my pistol, and fired one off over his head.

I won that argument, and nobody got hurt....especially not the little puppy .... who grew up to be the coolest little guy on the block.

The other time was when someone was walking through my yard, very close to my bedroom window, at 2:30 a.m., about 2 weeks after my house had had an attempted break in. The nearest house is about 1/2 mile away, so there was NO reason for anyone to be walking around my house that time of the night/morning. So....I cracked the window, pulled up the screen, and yelled "get the hell outa here!", and I fired a shot into the air.

Problem solved. That was 3 years ago.

Guns aren't toys, but they also don't HAVE to be weapons. Cars can kill people, but they don't have to be weapons, either. Either one could be a weapon if you really needed a weapon at that moment. But in "real life", we seldom encounter a time when we need a weapon. In the event we DO have occasion to need a weapon, THAT'S not the time to decide to go buy one.

:kick::kick::kick:

The three skinheads bought assault rifles.

I'm personally just thrilled at the prospect of that first drug dealer gang-police shootout in my city. And then the next shooting up of a McDonalds that takes out 24 people. Then the fellow who 'goes postal' on his coserfs in the warehouse and gives the undertaker 17 coffins' worth of business. And then the drive by shooting that puts 60 bullets into 5 people on some street corner because someone's girlfriend got dissed.

But then again, we all know that civilization (U.S. version 2001-2004) consists of killing people we don't like. At least that's what George Dubya keeps on tell me.

Oh yes, we're in the fast lane to civilization.

Some of them are going to be used to kill policemen. I have heard that, while assault weapons are less likely to be involved in a police shooting, about 20% of police deaths are caused from them.

My friend is a cop, and he is not looking forward to facing a person with an AK-47. You see, his body armor isn't designed to stop a round from an assault weapon.

He has four children and is trying to raise them on a lousy salary in a state that refuses to maintain tax levels, let alone raise them to pay him a decent wage or buy him proper body armor.

God forbid, if he is murdered in the line of duty his family will undoubtedly have to go on public assistance. I'm sure the wingnuts will be disgusted by the prospect of another mom with 4 kids on welfare and will despise her as a "welfare queen."

By the way: My friend and his wife are staunchly pro-Bush.

Sometimes irony just isn't funny.