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tough on Bush...LOL... how did you even manage to get the words out? ;-)

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I like Dean, too. I'm not making my decision yet, though I have really liked how Dean has pummelled Chimpy about his vacation.

I would have liked to have seen more of that from all the Dem candidates. It should have been a concerted chorus.

Kerry spoke at the VFW convention IN Texas the other day, and hardly any media mentioned his speech and the great reception that Kerry received from the veterans, while Rumsfeld and Rice got all the press attention, but a lukewarm reception from the vets.

Kerry is letting Dean set the pace and is preparing for the long haul.

I think he will "make his move" soon and put his campaign in high gear.

If he fails to make a buzz then, it's over.

So, yeah it's too early to tell just what the hell is going to happen.

Actually, Dean took an aggressive approach to the mission, evict *bush....the crowd just followed their heart. He has mine.

He took advantage of a predictable pattern and got the edge. Thats the kind of thinking we need to defeat the Rove machine.

I have nothing negative to say about 8 of the candidates...Gephardt and Lieberman are on my do not respect list but the rest are fine democrats. I'm grateful to their campaign as it got the party motivated.

It is So early in this process.

I'm not trying to needle anyone, but be prepared to support whoever comes out of the convention almost a year from now.

It could happen, if Clark gets in, that Dean and Clark could slug it out and split the anti-war vote. Kerry could hold the pro-war/moderate/conservative vote as an alternative to the left.

I doubt that it will happen that way, because an awful lot of Democrats want a real opposition candidate to DumbIsMe rather than one who voted for the slaughter.

The reason: Kerry’s AG will look into the BFEE. So all the media coverage will go elsewhere. The agent provocateurs will pound him mercilessly. The money will flow to the Greens, er, Deans.

A small sample of Kerry's backbone:

Senator Kerry turned over evidence of criminality on the part of BCCI — a corrupt international bank with ties to Pakistani intelligence, Saudi oil money, the Bush clan, Manuel Noriega, the CIA, the KGB, Ollie North, Abu Nidhal, as well as international arms merchants, money launderers and drug dealers.

Here’s what Mother Jones says about Kerry has done regarding BCCI. It's a glimpse of what he and his Attorney General will do:

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* Senator John Kerry (D-MA) passed evidence of criminal conduct by the Bank of Credit and Commerce International to the DOJ. Justice did nothing. Later, the director of U.S. Customs, William Von Raab, gave Justice even more explicit evidence of BCCI's wide-ranging criminal banking activity. The DOJ neutralized Von Raab's evidence by entering into a narrow plea-bargain agreement with BCCI officials, effectively shutting the door on Von Raab's broader allegations. In 1990, the DOJ tried to derail Manhattan district attorney Robert Morgenthau's independent investigation of BCCI by contacting witnesses and warning them not to cooperate with Morgenthau. Former Senate investigator Jack Blum said that since BCCI had been the original banker for the administration's Iran-contra operation, the Justice Department "just wanted to look the other way."

Source: Mother Jones

http://www.mojones.com/mother_jones/JF93/pizzo.html

it's still too early.

Dean is not the only good candidate out there!!!

All of these candidates can beat Bush next year!!!

Kerry, Graham, Dean, Gephardt, Edwards, Clark, Kucinich, Braun, and Sharpton!!!

Please Note that there is no Lieberman listed here!!!


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Kerry will be around to the bitter end.

Anyone who does may be indulging in more than a little wishful thinking. I'm firmly in Dean's camp, but Kerry is still a major contender, and there's still a long way to go ... though I'm absolutely convinced that Dean isn't just a sprinter but a record-setting marathoner as well.

count him out...that would be stupid

It's still an eternity to the first primary in political time.

As one campaign manager remarked, "I will concede the Summer caucuses, the ones I am interested in take place next year."

vis a vis the MoveOn.org vote deal, I am still on the fence. I like Dean's stance on most issues, AND, he was against the war. I still don't buy Kerry's explanation on why he voted for the war, that he and the other Senators, were "fooled". I just don't buy it.

Having said that, I am also a little leery of Dean. There seems to be a little too much "push" on him from the media, who we all know is Repuglian owned and operated. Why do thay want Dean so bad, or at least enough to give him all kinds of press, compared to Kerry? Anyway, my old political "bones" tell me something may not be "right" with the Dean opertion. I hope I am wrong.

Regardless, I remain on the fence, ...for now, studying the candidates. Of the bunch, the only two who have a chance, in my opinion (with 35 years being involved in Democratic politics), is Kerry, and Dean. For the very reasons you mentioned, I feel Kerry might be the more viable candidate.