BwahahahahHAH - Wingnut Calls Kitty KELLEY "a LEFTIST"!

Yesterday was a heavy artillery day with my wingnut Vietnam vet ---this would be him and me trading e-mail poltical fire, meaning me sending issues and articles and him sending immature-boy insults --- and he tried calling a truce by sending a long e-mail of one-liner jokes, and at the end, it said, "Come on, admit it: At least ONE of these made you SMILE."

I don't negotiate with wingnuts, so I sent him the Slate article that had, like, 50 brief tidbits from Kitty KELLEY's book, and my Subject line was, "Admit it - At least ONE of these made you SMILE."

So today he replies, "Doesn't make it true when of Leftist like that writes BSSSSS!"

So I sent:

Kitty KELLEY---a LEFTIST????? Hahahahahah. Her Repuke roots are VERRRRRY deep.

As for what she writes: the KENNEDYs didn't sue her; the Brit royal family didn't sue her; the RAYGUNS didn't sue her; SINATRA didn't sue her------------guess why: BECAUSE THE STUFF SHE WROTE ABOUT THEM WAS TRUE!!!!!!! Each of her books takes 4 years to research and write, with about 1,000 interviews for each one, and AT LEAST two sources for every single tidbit of trash that her subjects DO.

That said, in other words, when you say "doesn't make it true," you mean TRUTH really WOULD make a difference to you? Well, it might take you years to let it soak in, so start getting used to it...

Freaks got nothing else so they resort to the old blah blah blah "leftist" lables...

Fork in > They're done!

morphing into JK and his title, "Here's your hero." My counter to THAT was:

I'd say she's probably more right than left.

She goes where the dirt is because it makes her money. I don't think she cares that much about politics.

It's a well researched well written book and not the 'gossip' the press is making it out to be. It's definately not a slash and burn piece at all. It reads like history which it is. The history of the BFEE.


A tid bit or two

When a journalist was staying over night at the Bush mansion he had insomnia and was looking for something to read and the only book in the house was...the fart book.

When GHW and Barbs 3 year old died from lukemia they didn't attend the funeral.

I haven't seen much discussion about the contents of it yet so I assume like me everyone is still reading it. In fact I'm off to catch a few more chapters. I think I'll take some notes on my favorite bits and be prepared to post when the topic comes up here for discussion.

I got it from Costco the day it came out. It is a VERY fascinating look into a sick ass family.

Can't wait to finish it and discuss.

They did donate her body to the hospital and when they were through with the remains they let someone else handle her burial and they didn't attend. Someone else held a memorial service for the child, no funeral.

Now fortunately, I have never lost a child. I can't imagine the pain and horror of the situation but not attending to her burial yourself? Playing golf because you were so glad to get away from the hospital? Didn't bother to tell her older brother - "Georgie" that his sister is dying? They actually left her body for others to handle and returned home to Texas. Got Georgie out of school when they returned and broke the news to him in the car on the way home from school. How cold and self-serving are these people?

to read.

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2004/01/27/phillips/index_np.html

"American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush."

By Kevin Phillips

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The Bush dynasty's dark magic
One-time Republican hero Kevin Phillips dares to speak up against the Walker-Bush oligarchy that rules the American state through oil, intelligence, big money and the power of the Christian right.

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By Joan Walsh

Jan. 27, 2004 | People like Kevin Phillips aren't supposed to exist anymore. In a country that's become "two nations," this time not black and white but Red and Blue, conservatives rarely engage with liberals (unless it's to lampoon or attack them), let alone read their publications, reckon with their arguments, or -- perish the thought! -- even agree with them. But here comes Phillips, the renowned Nixon White House strategist who wrote "The Emerging Republican Majority" in 1969, a Nixon/Reagan/John McCain kind of Republican, with the most damning book to date about the Bush administrations (yes, that's plural), "American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush."

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on Bush Lies - http://bushlies2.us/bltv/bltv_chan1.html. This guy is scathing to the Bush family - even more so than Kitty Kelley!

Think this was taped last January or February. Why didn't this book get more air time. Now I've got to make a run to the library.

The "Nancy" book (the only other one of hers I've read) was more biting and edgey.

In these first 100+ pages so far the B.F.E.E. has nothing to worry about: KELLEY absolved them from the Nazi blame, she raised a few little doubts about Poppy's crashing THREE damned planes and killing 2 crewmembers but lets it go at that, and her telling of the Robin death is actually moving-------SO what do the DAMNED wingnuts have to bitch about?????????

http://www.dynaforce.com.sg/news_clippings.asp


Then along came Fitzgerald, who started out as his secretary and became so much more. Short, blonde and pretty, Jennifer Ann Isobel Patteson-Knight Fitzgerald was 42 years old and divorced when Bush first met her in Washington during the tumultuous months of the Watergate scandal. He was chairman of the Republican National Committee; she worked for one of the committee’s officials.
Professionally, Bush’s move from Washington to Beijing would enhance his credentials as he clawed his way to the presidency; but personally it would discombobulate his 30-year-old marriage, prompt his wife to burn her love letters and eventually lead to her severe depression.

“It wasn’t just another woman,” said someone close to the situation, discussing the wedge that came between Bush and Barbara. “It was a woman who came to exert enormous influence over George for many, many years . . . She became in essence his other wife . . . his office wife.” Fitzgerald landed in Beijing on December 5, 1974, and the next day she and Bush left for a 12-day diplomatic conference in Honolulu. In his diary, he wrote: “Spent the last two days out of that Sheraton Waikiki madhouse and in the 4999 Kahala apartment — just lovely . . . Checked out the bathhouse again . . . Totally relaxing. Someday I will write a book on massages I have had . . .

“I must confess the Tokyo treatment is the best. Walking the back . . . combination of knees and oil . . . does wonders for the sacroiliac, and a little something for the morale too . . . Flew back to Peking on Iran Airlines. Jennifer and I alone in first class.”

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“Suddenly there was a great commotion as the security men accompanying the secretary of state (Alexander Haig) and the attorney-general (William French Smith) converged on our table,” recalled one of the five dinner guests. “They started jabbering into their walkie-talkies, and then whispered to Haig and Smith, who both jumped up and left the restaurant.

“The two men returned about 45 minutes later, laughing their heads off. They said they had had to bail out George Bush, who’d been in a traffic accident with his girlfriend. Bush had not wanted the incident to appear on the (Washington) DC police blotter, so he had his security men contact Haig and Smith. They took care of things for him, then came back to dinner.”

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Extracted from The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty by Kitty Kelley, published by Transworld at £20. Copies can be ordered for £16 plus £2.25 p&p from The Sunday Times Books First on 0870 165 8585 or at www.timesonline.co.uk/booksfirstbuy

it's not that bad at all in the begining. And she get's Prescott off the hook for stealing Geronimo's bones for skull and bones too. The rest of the first 300 pages she really makes Prescott seem like a decent guy.But read between the lines regarding the story of Prescott's tale of stealing the skull. After the Native Americans sue to get back the skull it's discovered that it's really the skull of a ten year old boy. What the hell is that about ?????!!!!!

There is some stuff that is not flattering like after Robin died they went golfing on the same afternoon. I wasn't touched at all by that. They are portrayed as a very self-centered bunch of assholes.

I'm somewhere around page 375 and she makes a major fool out of Poppy. It's Poopy not Prescott that's that asshole and once you get to his campaign against Reagan you start to get a glimpse into their disfunctional family and you REALLY start to understand that W is running his campaign via Poopy's campaign advice from Atwater.

Anyone that is reading this book and is still paddling through the first 250 pages you just havent gotten to the meat of the book yet. Stay the course and soon you'll have your reward for having stuck with it through all of that blather about Prescott. There is a good reason for her spening so much time on Prescott and that is she sets the reader up to understand the difference between a real republican (Prescott) and the corrupt absolutely corrupt Poopy and then on to W. It's a good technique if you ask me. It's helps the reader understand why Poopy is the way he is, how empty he is. Ididn't think he was off the hook at all for crashing the plane. It is plain as can be that he killed those other men with his cowardice. I just think you haven't gotten to that yet. It comes up again while he campaigns for his bid for the presidency.

Again, the tale about the journalist that spent the night at Barbara and Poopy's mansion and could only find one book in the whole house ---the Fart Book. That's a good example of how petty and pathetic she portrays the son of Prescott to be.

Since the burden is on the person filing the suit (in the case of libel/slander of a public figure) to prove "actual malice," which is an insansely hard standard to meet, so as to protect the freedom of speech.

So the fact that no one has sued her means nothing in terms of the veracity of her claims. By your logic, because Kerry hasn't sued the Swift Boat Liars, their claims must be true as well.

My (low) level of logic is enough to discomfit him (for now) and that's good enough for me.

I'll say, though, that if there were an UTTER FABRICATION in the book, like, the-elephant-has-a-trunk-growing-from-out-of-its-stomach, we'd be HEARING about it, legal standard or no legal standard. And we certainly heard from JK's side of things.

on the Natl Enquirer. All the little housewives will be buying it and "clucking" about it... They all take the Enquirer as gospel.

I almost bought a copy of it just to see what the article said - lol!

here: http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/feature.cfm?instanceid=62344

not much to it, just mentioning that the allegation is made in Kitty Kelley's book. but it IS very prominently featured on the front page, see http://www.nationalenquirer.com/

That wimp who's been on C-SPAN to a TINY live audience, telling how he has penetrated every cliche about Shrub (being dumb) and discovered that the opposites are true, that Shrub really IS smart and compassionate.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/233736p-200740c.html

.... Kessler - a former Washington Post reporter whose own book, "A Matter of Character: Inside the White House of George W. Bush" is favorable to the President - told me Kelley threatened to sue him after he argued on the air that there were serious problems with Kelley's credibility and reporting methods.

"She was livid and her eyes were blazing as she said, 'You may not say anything slanderous about my book in the future! Do you understand me? I'm putting you on notice!'"

On the show, Kessler said his sources in the Secret Service and the White House servants contended that George Bush the younger didn't even smoke or drink when he visited Camp David, and that the only White House drug use was a couple of Jimmy Carter's children smoking marijuana in the late 1970s.

Kessler also derided Kelley's journalistic standards. "Her standard of proof is: Can she be successfully sued for libel? Which, in the case of a President, means you can say anything."

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