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Enrico Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:22 PM
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If Bush wins... do we invade N. Korea and Iran?
And then we're fighting on 4 fronts, Iraq, Afghanistan, N. Korea and Iran. Could even Bush be this stupid? I feel like he still hasn't learned his lesson and all this talk lately about their plan to inact the draft again is making me wonder.... what do you think?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:23 PM
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1. Yes and even if he looses
I can smell a ear with Iran, THINK SOMALIA
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:23 PM
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2. Yes and even if he looses
I can smell a ear with Iran, THINK SOMALIA
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:24 PM
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3. Iran then Syria.
North Korea isn't on the list unless they drop the big one on Crawford.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:24 PM
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4. Um, "we" won't do anything
If the American people elect that fool it will be them not us who will be responsible for his foreign policy misadventures.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:32 PM
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14. C'mon, George, you first, LEAD us
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:24 PM
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5. Naw...
Syria and Iran are more likely!:eyes:

B-)
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:24 PM
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6. Iran, then Syria...no oil in N. Korea
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:25 PM
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7. There's no reason to invade North Korea.
No OIL.

I think Iran. Which is too bad, because I have Syria in the pool.
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Cloud Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:25 PM
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8. Maybe
If John Kerry wins I think he will pull something as a lame duck. He will attack one of the two countries and then we would hear for 4 years from repukes about the mess in the middle east.
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truhavoc Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:26 PM
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9. I think I will move to Canada
I'm seriously getting an armageddon feeling from this bunch, I don't think we've ever been closer to having the world join AGAINST us.

Even scarier, whats happens when Putin solidifies even more power using terrorism as justification...cold war all over??
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:37 PM
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17. "I think I will move to Canada" Think again....

The jurisdiction of the Northern Command now extends from Mexico to Alaska. Under ("bi-national") agreements signed with neighbouring countries, Northern Command can intervene and deploy its forces and military arsenal on land, air and sea in Canada (extending into its Northern territories), throughout Mexico and in parts of the Caribbean.
(See: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/dod/northcom.htm )

To prepare for new "law enforcement" missions for the military within America, overseen by the Northern Command, the Center for Law and Military Operations, based in Charlottesville, Virginia has published a "useful" handbook entitled Domestic Operational Law for Judge Advocates. According to Frank Morales, the handbook:

"attempts to solidify, from a legal standpoint, Pentagon penetration of America and its 'operations other than war,' essentially providing the U.S. corporate elite with lawful justification for its class war against the American people, specifically those that resist the 'new world law and order' agenda." (Frank Morales, "Homeland Defense and the Militarization of America," Global Outlook, No. 6, Winter 2004, http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR309A.html )

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zapp Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:27 PM
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10. The stage is set
for another mideast war.

The dittoheads are all in agreement that the only way to conquer terrorism is to convert the entire middle east to our way of life.

Sounds quite a bit like the crusades all over again.

Iran is the latest Mohammed Al-Baradei is targeting with the UN for trying to enrich Uranium for Warheads. Look for us to be threatening war with them within a year, should Bush be reelected.

bb
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:27 PM
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11. with what army? there won't even be airstrikes
not gonna happen, they have learned that maybe Clinton wasn't so wrong in his handling of North Korea. The poeple of North Korea i feel truly sorry for.
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the_outsider Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:28 PM
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12. Not North Korea, Iran probably
North Korea can nuke South Korea which will be expensive to US economy. Bush does not care about Americans dying, but he cares a lot about corporate bottom lines.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:35 PM
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16. I think the Iran thing is another diversion tactic
we will not be going to Iran, there is a huge difference between the 2 countries aside from the population and the geography. My brother in law is an Iranian, now a us citizen and my sister has been there 4 times, the topography of the country is far different than it's neighbor Iraq.
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the_outsider Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:12 PM
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18. yes, Iran is very different from Iraq and it will be very difficult
But I don't think we can rule out an Iran war in a * second term completely. They do have a whole lot of natural gas reserves which may end up to be more important than oil in the long run. It will be almost impossible to attack Iran without an Iraq-style sanctions and disarmament first. Even after that, it will require a much bigger army operation. They may have to re-institute draft. If that does not work out, they will have to depend on contract soldiers. Unfortunately there are a lot of poor hopeless people all over the world. They would take a 70/30 odds of surviving a war if they get a few thousand dollars which in their currencies will be a lifetime's savings.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:31 PM
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13. If the USA wants a Nuclear War with China it should attack
North Korea. North Korea pushed into a no win will also unleash any Nukes it has.

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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:34 PM
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15. According to Perle: Iran - regime change, N. Korea - nuclear blockade.
Hawks Tell Bush How to Win War on Terror
by David Rennie in Washington

President George W Bush was sent a public manifesto yesterday by Washington's hawks, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and a Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea backed by planning for a pre-emptive strike on its nuclear sites.

The manifesto, presented as a "manual for victory" in the war on terror, also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but as rivals and possibly enemies.

The manifesto is contained in a new book by Richard Perle, a Pentagon adviser and "intellectual guru" of the hardline neo-conservative movement, and David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter. They give warning of a faltering of the "will to win" in Washington.

In the battle for the president's ear, the manifesto represents an attempt by hawks to break out of the post-Iraq doldrums and strike back at what they see as a campaign of hostile leaking by their foes in such centers of caution as the State Department or in the military top brass.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1231-01.htm

That's how bad a Bush 2nd term would be. The PNAC commands him!
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