"...this is like living in Kafka Novel" Marshall says! CBS No Run Story!

(So, CBS Sixty Minutes Cans Josh Marshall's story about Niger Yellowcake in favor of rushing on forged documents....This was Josh's Tectonic Plates story he promised us. But, the whole shenanigans with CBS and Marshall and Rosen's Investigative Reporting and CBS plus now Issikoff and Hosenbloom is just too much to deal with. Who is telling the truth here? Read the whole article and then wonder who made decision to "Can" Josh's story and why...and I even wonder the truth of Josh's story now since all is so F**ked up that they had to give it to Newsweek's Issikoff who is NOT trustworthy,imho. How the hell do we know what to believe nymore!)


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The Story That Didn’t Run
Here’s the piece that ‘60 Minutes’ killed for its report on the Bush Guard documents
By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball
Newsweek
Updated: 5:24 p.m. ET Sept. 22, 2004
"This is like living in a Kafka novel,” said Joshua Micah Marshall, a Washington Monthly contributing writer and a Web blogger who had been collaborating with “60 Minutes” producers on the uranium story. “Here we had a very important, well-reported story about forged documents that helped lead the country to war. And then it gets bumped by another story that relied on forged documents.”

Some CBS reporters, as well as one of the network’s key sources, fear that the Niger uranium story may never run, at least not any time soon, on the grounds that the network can now not credibly air a report questioning how the Bush administration could have gotten taken in by phony documents. The network would “be a laughingstock,” said one source intimately familiar with the story.

Although acknowledging that it was “frustrating” to have his story bounced, David Gelber, the lead CBS producer on the Niger piece, said he has been told the segment will still air some time soon, perhaps as early as next week. “Obviously, everybody at CBS is holding their breath these days. I’m assuming the story is going to run until I’m told differently.”

The delay of the CBS report comes at a time when there have been significant new developments in the case—although virtually none of them have been reported in the United States. According to Italian and British press reports, Martino—the Rome middleman at the center of the case—was questioned last week by an Italian investigating magistrate for two hours about the circumstances surrounding his acquisition of the documents. Martino could not be reached for comment, but his lawyer is reportedly planning a press conference in the next few days.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6073449/site/newsweek

I mean, it's so convenient on so many levels. Damn Dan Rather for running a stupid story. Now we'll all pay.

Well, Rather was a nobody until he lied and said that JFK's head went forward instead of back and to the right, on the Zapruder film. There's a factoid for you.

anymore. I thought something was wrong with Josh's story when it kept getting delayed and he seemed to start avoiding the story on his website...backing off it or something. I even e-mailed him about it.

But, I really don't trust Josh if he leaked the problem to Newsweek, because if there's any newsmagazine I detest it's Newsweek because of that puffed up ass Issikoff who made his name off Clinton. I see him as a total "stovepipe" for Rove. So how does he get the interview with Josh? They must be buddies..

It's all mindboggling. Damned tentacles in DC where the Inner Beltway runs the country and we "THE PEOPLE" are left being manipulated.

:nuke: :grr: Really pissed over this. and sad and kind of frightened.

now I am convinced Rove and the BFEE have someone working inside CBS to spread confusion and kill stories that threaten the BFEE. Even if they have to destroy CBS News in the process.

I'm stunned.

Co-owns a ranch with Donald Rumsfeld. How is that for "inside"?

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=11980

Consider some recent words from Dan Rather. During his Sept. 17 2001 appearance on David Letterman's show, the CBS news anchor laid it on the line. "George Bush is the president," Rather said, "he makes the decisions." Speaking as "one American," the newsman added: "Wherever he wants me to line up, just tell me where. And he'll make the call."

Niger story...How do we know? Maybe Marshall didn't have it all nailed down if he had to spring it to Issikoff at Newsweek?

It's possible someone at CBS trashed Niger story and knew that bumping it for Memo's would kill it but they then had to believe Memo's a more important story. Or was it? Was it Rather himself? I don't believe his two producers would have done it because one of them, Mapes broke the Abu Ghraib story. There's another female producer...but I don't think it would be her. So, who did it? Dan's boss? And why did Dan's bosses bring in known Repug henchman Dick Thornburg to investigate?

Plus, Viacom gives to Democrats...what the hell is going on. I think Sumner Redstone owns them and he's gay...so why would he be in bed with Repugs?

It's all too much...

that is part of the formula. give eveyone a headache thinking about it and it will go away.

the Iraq Invasion. Got all kinds of criticism for it. It was only a month or two before the invasion...

From: Talking Points Memo today...

"In Newsweek this afternoon, Mike Isikoff and Mark Hosenball have a piece that touches on the fact that the FBI still hasn't managed to interview Rocco Martino, the guy at the center of the

forged Niger uranium documents story. They put the question to the FBI and were told by a "U.S. law-enforcement official ... the FBI is seeking to interview Martino, but has not yet received permission to do so from the Italian government."

Please.

The Bureau may well be looking to interview Martino now that they've been put on the spot.But are they really willing to take 'no' for an answer from the Italians?And more to the point, if it's really a jurisdictional issue, why didn't they try to interview Martino last month when he was in New York?

Or if not then, how about when he flew here in June?

The White House is now saying that it's imperative to get to the bottom of who's behind the CBS Memo forgeries. And they're right. But the US government has never made any serious effort to find out who is behind the Niger uranium forgeries.

Why not?
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

The Niger documents were produced at the request of the neocons who are being investigated for passing state secrets to the Israeli front. This was the situation that Valerie Plame was investigating when she was exposed by the VP's office. The Niger forgeries/Plame outing/and neocon spy scandal are one case.

CBS had a good story ready to run. The information that was provided to them by J.M. was absolutely solid. It got derailed, not unlike Plame's investigation was derailed.

One thing to keep in mind is that CBS, much like the FBI or CI, has people and cliques with very different agendas working within it.

The network has made enemies in high places. Letterman, Janet Jackson's boob, Rather, Abu Ghraib scandals.

CBS gets fined, accused of conspiracy, investigated. Added to unsolved anthrax letters, Rathers' overseas comments about being silenced, restrictions on access for those who don't adhere to the Bush party line (how many interviews has Bush done with 60 Minutes?). It appears this network has been being targetted for sometime.

I applaud their courage. And suspect they were intentionally set up.
This thread provides yet another motive for their orchestrated acts of revenge.

Doesn't it make sense the Niger story would be more solid? Who decided to believe Burkett when even DU'ers have posted way back that he had some mental breakdowns in his past? It makes very little sense. I have hard time believing Rather is at fault because he has such a bad history with Bushes why cave now...so close to retirement what more does he need? So who was it...someone at the top over him, who got turned/threatened/bullied by Rove?

Whatever...I give up...speculating is too hard it's like a maze without a key.

I hate to say it. I would have gone for the damn Burkett bait too.

is which of the two stories you run first? Because there is no evidence that indicates CBS was going to can the Niger forgeries story. It was delayed initially to run the draft story; the reason appears to be that CBS was concerned someone else would run it. The Niger story is very well known. CBS knew that no one else was going to run it in a meaningful way. The draft story shows that Bush was a spoiled brat. Compare that with the Niger story.

just like CBS. Are they gonna try and pin these on Kerry too?

who on March 8, 2003 told the press "We fell for it" in regard to the forged documents. The reason is that it is a small group within the intel community and defense (the "neocons") who had the documents produced and distributed in Europe. Thus, the decent people in the intel/defense -- who are the majority -- did get duped. They were lied to by the neocons.

Remember that Larry Franklin has been giving state's evidence regarding the "spy ring" that involves the forged documents and Plame.

And, go with "copies" of documents without originals? Not hire a type expert?

Bush used phony documents to advance his agenda just like Rather is accused to have done. Now is the best time to make that point.

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Marshall has his own agenda - not always ours.
Rather - Isicoff - whom to believe? If you have trouble with that one, go back to the Clinton years and THAT flawless reporting.

was leaked to. Which is it? Isikoff can spin the story his way. Which way were Marshall and Rosen going?

I have no doubt that Isikoff gets all his info from Rove and the Ops who were after Clinton. So suddenly he breaks that Marshall's story was pre-empted with a quote from Marshall...

I trust Marshall more than Isikoff, but really who is trustworthy...how do we know? What is the truth and who do we trust to really tell the "truth" without spin? I trust Marshall more because he was heavy into the Plame story and had exclusives with Joe Wilson. So, I think he had something...but then perhaps even Wilson...is being spun. :eyes: