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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 08:52 AM Original message |
America: only rich, white men can become president |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Not for long. |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Because they control the purse strings |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 08:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Promoting the "white male agenda"? |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
43. It's systemic, not individual. |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. Yes, its systematic. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's simple |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 08:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Wow... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. It's supposed to be simplistic. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. You're only reinforcing why rich, white men don't want campaign... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I'm not sure that's why they don't want public to finance elections |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. I'm not talking about 'conspiracies'...but about... |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
44. Blacks don't |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Did I say it was dogmatic law? I don't think I did. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Well that's a different question |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Dancing around the pivotal question... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. No, they cost so much because TV air time, |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
9. I think we're actually at a point |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. We're struggling simply to maintain our democracy... |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
42. As I said... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
85. Women senators and house members |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
11. two words: Hillary Clinton. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
70. I would prefer the second two words |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
14. Because America was designed by & for them |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
15. Just Talking About This Last Night... |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
37. What about Clinton vs Bush... |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
69. according to what I've read... |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
45. Actually, white men are NOT a majority. |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. Thats why I said.... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
86. Partial blame goes to the presidential candidates |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
93. The 'noble theory' didn't work for Clinton vs. Bush 41... |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
16. Colin Powell dropped his presidential bid |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. i thought he dropped it because his wife was strongly against |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Yeah, because she didn't wanna die. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. His wife was strongly against her family dying |
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newportdadde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
17. What about.. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
20. Allow me to throw out a question: what about public financing... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I don't necessarily agree with it, |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. UnConstitutional? Can you quote the decision? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Yes. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:39 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Strongly emphazied? |
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Blue Wally (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:49 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Only if you accept......... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. No, that's the decision. |
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gandalf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. That is how it goes in Germany |
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shawcomm (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
41. Great idea on the air time... |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #20 |
57. I think it's a great idea, we need to get extreme wealth and |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
87. After seeing what a fiasco McCain Feingold has created, |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
21. furthermore, abraham lincoln, and many 1800s presidents weren't "rich" |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. But certainly you have to admit that things have changed since Lincoln? |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
78. Lincoln was a lawyer. He wasn't very poor. |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
26. keep spreading that cynicism |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Why is the truth cynical? |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. you're pointing out obvious truths |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Gore won the election...which is the basis for my... |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
59. Yes, but under the CURRENT SYSTEM in place NOW, |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:17 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. of course it's a serious flaw |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. At the risk of being banned... |
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Surf Cowboy (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
32. Because women and minorities can't get their political acts |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. thats BS |
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Surf Cowboy (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. With all due respect, |
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. Bullshit on this: |
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Surf Cowboy (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. Yeah, I'll tell it to the 10,000+ who got wounded or killed. |
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Read the thread back |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 07:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
92. with due respect |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
52. "Women should have had a president some time ago" |
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Surf Cowboy (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. We really don't belong to the same damn group. |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Well, if you really believe that, we might as well give up |
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. We should consider separate countries |
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Surf Cowboy (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. No. You don't have to cut the hangnail out at the hip. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. your post explains the problem |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
66. Research the psychology of oppressed groups |
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Sparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
33. Clinton wasn't rich. |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I was going to mention Clinton - He was raised by a single mother |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
50. Agreed...but 'white guys' can use other people's money... |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
40. I wore this yesterday... |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
49. rich women and rich people of color will eventually get in... |
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
64. "rich women and rich people of color will eventually get in..." |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Of course. They will have to be someone the power elites are comfy with. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. two words: colin powell |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
82. explain the CBC's attempted protest of the coup |
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Hmm? |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
51. obama 4 prez |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
53. Our "democracy" is built on the power of money. |
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nancyharris (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
54. It should be noted that |
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TexasSissy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
56. This is a patriarchal society. (Rich because that's required.... |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
74. Only if you can "debone" your closet |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
76. Well, given that the positioon of pResident no longer exists in Amerika |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
77. Isn't that how it's supposed to be? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
79. Because it's been that way since the inception of this country. |
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PROGRESSIVE1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
81. kick |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
84. its because they own the god damned place! |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
88. like Bill Clinton??? like John Edwards??? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
89. I believe it. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
91. Because only middle class/rich white men vote |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
94. I don't know |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
95. perhaps it should be 'only rich white men get a president elected' |
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