Is al-Zarqawi evil?

I think he's an evil piece of scum. I hope he dies a slow painful death.

I hope that DUers who like to use the word evil to describe political opponents (and I do too - I think right-wingers are fucking scary evil - but in a different way) can also identify other types of evil.

If you don't like the word evil - substitute your word of choice.

Evil all the way. I hope there is a hell so that he and b*sh will probably be stuck in the same room.

hung, decapitated and burned!

USA! USA! USA!

...uhhh didnt he die in 2002?

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No

He was hanging out in a place called Kirma, in northern Iraq outside of the reach of Saddam Hussein. The Pentagon proposed to Bush to strike the camp with missiles, or to launch a commando raid.

Bush flinched. We lost.

I recall seeing him listed as dead around that time on a major news website

considering his amputation or whatever.

As to his death, I'm not surprised that there were those stories. It is possible that you are confusing him with Abu Nidal, who died of "suicide" in Baghdad in 2002, probably a Saddam Hussein assisted suicide (ironically enough). But it is also probable that he was reported to be dead, just like there were reports today about the capture of al-Zawahiri.

so you can claim Saddam is "harboring" terrorists isn't flinching
it's evil

Seymour Hersch says he's probably a composite.

some Islamic extremist(s) beheaded those people...

and they are evil in my book...

because they behead people almost every day for crimes.

What about the American pilots who are currently bombing Fallujah and Sadr City? Are they evil?

I actually wonder if he exists at all.

Which that much I will assume; when I am offered proof that he leads more than a small band of thugs, proof that he isn't just an Arabic name pulled out of the ass of the DoD, Central Command, CIA, White House, etc...

Then I say, at the very least, his (purported) methods are. Further reflection on the man, of which I am incapable (Simply Sleep is kicking in), would then follow.

I haven't read anything as of yet that convinces me that is, proof-positive, more than a small sardine on an extra large pizza (trying hard to abstain from cliche usage here :silly:).

If they were making him up, pre-war they'd at least put him in a part of Iraq that Saddam Hussein actually controlled, rather than a remote valley that we could have surrounded or pulverized.

What lingers in my mind is the need for a clear-cut enemy; if you don't quite have one, inflate one until he appears to be a big enough threat.

I had a sense they were pursuing this sort of psychological strategy on the homefront when Moqtada Al-Sadr was given the lofty (though unofficial) position of "Supreme Commander of the Iraqi Uprising" by Dan Senor (spokesperon for CentCom), the administration, and others.

If the bad acts can't be pinned on a few names...well, what would we garsh darn think? That the situation in Iraq might be a bit more...complicated than capturing or killing a few guys who have been inflated to near-mythical proportions?

Like Saddam? Uday and Qussay? Transfer of "soverignty" (yas, I know that last one isn't a person, but you get my drift...)?

down with Goldstein.

Yes. All terrorist are evil because they are murderers. And administrations that allow these murderes to roam, train and eqiup them, and launch corrupt wars and are also murderers are evil to. Geoge Bush, Dick Cheneey, Donald Rumsfield are all evil, the terrorist are evil as well (but not as smart as the the evil administration).