Kansas is Fighting the Evolution Battle Again

We are going backwards in time. Remember when Kansas had the schools teach the Bible version of the beginning of the earth along with evolution. And the whole world laughed at them.

Well, its back as an issue. The Right wing never gives up. They just back off and come in from another direction.

At this rate we will start another inquisition before too long.

the RW group was told no. What did they do? Formed a whole new group of the very same people and attacked again.

They're like pit bulls, they bite and never let up.

What do you think the war on terror is?

The Inquisition will happen when they start hunting for and persecuting heretics right here in this country, on the basis of their religious beliefs or non-beliefs.

I could definitely see it happening in some form.

Like rounding up people of a certain faith and detaining them indefinately? And going after members of out military who happen to be of that same faith and declaring them traitors?

is an inquisition, you aint seen nothin yet. However, we seem to be trying very hard to go back toward the Middle ages in this society, so you may very well get a chance to see what a real one looks like.

Gore really disappointed me last time around when he made some pro-creationism comments.

He's definitely scientifically literate.

And I doubt that Kerry has proclaimed the Earth is not flat, either.

http://www.nljonline.com/October1999/evolution2.htm

I doesn't have the exact quote I was looking for, but it's got the basic information.

It's alright to believe in Creationism but to force it down people's throats....that's another story.

The United States is NOT a Christian nation, wasn't intended to be, and hopefully won't be.

OK, I suppose it's also OK to believe that voices are talking to you and telling you to do bad things, as long as you don't act on them.

But we're talking about education, and creationism has absolutely no place in schools.

That's my point exactly! Not everyone that goes to a public school or even to a private school is Christian. Creationism should be taught in Sunday School, nowhere else. Flying monkeys are trying to cram Creationism down our throats and they shouldn't be allowed to. Let them teach it...just not in our schools.

I won't complain if it is, none of my business. But "Scientific Creationism" is both an insult to science and theology.

intelligent design.What the heck is that? And what exactly is the objection to stem cell research?

I am completely baffled by these crazy things pushed by knownothings.

Creationism is the belief that man was created by God, as opposed to evolving from lower life forms.

Intelligent design is like "Creationism-lite". Basically, it's evolution that is controlled by God.

The objection to stem cell research comes from the belief that even a two-day old embryo is a human life. The pro-lifers who say life begins at conception say using stem cells from embryos (as opposed to stem cells from adults) is murder since the extraction of these cells means the destruction of the embryo.

they need to replace evolution with creation based science. why? maybe the people in Kansas will wake up when their kids try to go to college and find out that all the creation based science is worthless. but then again these kids don`t go to a accredited college

A friend of mine from here (Kansas) graduated Yale Law.

Alas, I can only expect these jokes to continue as our state consistently does things to make us look stupid. The neocons won nearly every election in the primary in August. And the Republican is always the favorite in Nov.

The stated goal of the far right part of the party is that there will be no moderate Republican of significance left in the state party by 2008.

During the last creationism uproar there were a number of accredited universities that were starting to no longer accept science classes from Kansan students as meeting their application requirements.

And more power to them.

The people in Kansas who support this nonsense will never wake up.

Remember when John Dean said that there was a cancer on the presidency to Nixon? Well, IMO, the Reichwing Xtians are a cancer on this nation and like cancer, they will gladly destroy the host, the United States of American, to fulfill their delusions.

1. Bloody Kansas - admission of slave states to the Union.
2. Operation Rescue - shutting down legal abortion clinics.
3. Populism via William Jennings Bryan ("Cross of Gold" speech
http://www.kancoll.org/articles/speeches/bryan.htm )
4. Scopes, Part II - evolution taught in public schools and published in school textbooks.

Kansas is the jumping-off point for starting national social and societal campaigns. The populace is receptive enough and the campaigns attract mostly out-of-staters whom people think are natives (numbers count).

The only thing that happened because of OR was hundreds of arrests and OR looking like the radical fools that they are. Some were arrested several times assuring the Judge they would not go back and try and block the clinic. Well...they did and were arrested again,I'm sure the powers to be at OR kept assuring them that nothing would happen but a slap on the wrist and then let go. I would imagine quite a few ASSHOLES puckered when the Judge gave many of them 30-60 sentences.

It was in 1991 when they had the big protest,they came back a few years ago and weren't even noticed. If I remember right their leader was caught boinking a few of the women(he was married)and I think he was also skimming money off the top of the operation. My what values those people have.

David

The ones who missed the last round of natural selection are running the school boards in Toto-Land.

I don't care if they teach "creationism" as part of a theology class, but I find it a bad idea that it is presented in a science class.

just like teaching english in math class would be bad. Science class and religious belief should not be taught in the same classroom. Besides, all religions have their own creation stories. Many got their start long ago WHEN PEOPLE WERE NOT EDUCATED and didn't have much scientific and empirical data gathered over time. It was their way of explaining the world.

I hadn't heard of this starting up again and I live in Wichita. Do you have a link?

David

There has been a lot of misinformation about exactly what the Kansas Board of Education did in 1999. I have an article on my Teacher, Teacher website that spells out exactly what they did and didn't do, and also how the spread of misinformation actually plays into the fundie sidedoor strategy for getting creationism into the schools.

"Scopes Revisited: The Kansas Board of Education's 1999 Decision on Evolution"
http://teacherblue.homestead.com/scopes.html

They did not mandate the teaching of creationism, nor did they mandate the exclusion of evolutionary theory. What they did was change the guidelines for state science tests, eliminating questions that pertained to macroevolution (the idea that through natural selection and adaptation new species arise over time out of already existing species), the Big Bang theory of the origins of the cosmos, and the vast stretches of geological time.

Most people do not even realize that the resolution would have affected such things as the teaching of the Big Bang theory, or that textbooks were already in the process of being changed to eliminate the chapter on Kansas prehistory and to get rid of references to the world famous Kansas fossil beds.

You might find the article interesting--especially the part about how Republicans rose up in their primaries and got rid of candidates that supported that stupid resolution. And then everyone in Kansas went to sleep again, and the fundies fielded a stealth candidate at the last minute in the next election. She took one of the seats that were up for election that time, so now we have an even split on the BOE: 5 creationism supporters and 5 evolution supporters.