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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 05:50 PM
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TNR calls Charles Taylor "Ace of Diamonds"
does anyone else thinks kind of implies "Ace of Spades"?

http://www.tnr.com/

Maybe it's just me.

Also look at their sinister cover of Al Sharpton

http://www.tnr.com/thisweek.mhtml?i=20030217
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:13 AM
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1. If that's so then...
The New Republic is the "Ace of Diamonds"!!!

How about "The Neo Republican"?
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:19 AM
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3. Give me a break...
The New Republic constantly criticizes conservatives.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:21 AM
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6. They loved Reagan, gave the bell curve a good review
Edited on Fri Jul-11-03 10:44 AM by Classical_Liberal
were all for the Iraq war. Martin Peretz wrote several articles in support of the bell curves thesis. If you look in this week edition Peretz says israel has a right to settle the west bank, and Beinardt takes the left to task for not protesting Liberia. Bill Kristol, Andrew Sullivan, Michael Kelly and Norman Podhoretz have all worked for the New Republic.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:27 AM
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15. nice misquotations...
In the Peretz article he says:"I was against these settlements when they were built (some by Labor governments), and I assume that, as part of a real peace agreement, many perhaps most of them will be disbanded." So, uh, why would you say he supports settlements?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:29 AM
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8. To MaverickX
If the New Republic "criticizes" conservatives so much then why do they have the opinions of right wingers such as Andrew Sullivan. Bill Kristol used to work for them, remember???

While giving tepid endorsements to left/liberal ideas on foreign policy, they unbashedly supported Bush's Pre-empitve war in Iraq.

While The New Republic is not hard right, but it certainly has not lovingly embraced liberal/progressive ideas!!!
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:16 AM
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11. I just plainly disagree with you..
I have a TNR subscription and they criticize conservatives quite a bit. Andrew Sullivan is a social liberal so he does write columns critical of conservatism. I would love for you to provide specific examples of their conservatism, if anything they're centrist.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:18 AM
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2. ace of diamonds
prob refers to the diamond mines that taylor has used for -terrorist funding-pat robertson- a large% of diamonds sold in the usa. i don`t think they want to say ace of spades ,they let their brothers and sisters at stormfront do that..the new republic is to "nice" to say that in public..
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:19 AM
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4. They were one of the first to give the bellcurve a good review
Edited on Fri Jul-11-03 10:40 AM by Classical_Liberal
.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:18 AM
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12. any evidence they support the Bell Curve?
Please provide it.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:21 AM
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5. There's the race card..
Anyone who criticizes any black person is a racist?
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:24 AM
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7. Not as if the New Republic never pulls it
particularly their editor Peretz.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:19 AM
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13. huh?
Peter Beinart is TNRs editor.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:42 AM
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9. I thought of the Iraq card deck when I saw this
I assumed that they were spoofing Bush's deck of wanted Iraqis, using Taylor's diamond business as part of the fun.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:44 AM
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10. Possibly, but Tnr has a shady history on these matters
Edited on Fri Jul-11-03 10:45 AM by Classical_Liberal
. I personally have no doubt they are hawking for war in some other country.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:22 AM
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14. Charles Taylor "Ace of Diamonds"
I love it. I don't care where it came from, it's a great title for my favorite brutal dictator.

Too bad you have to register to read the article. Maybe you could post a bit of it here?


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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:31 AM
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16. I can give quotes from the article...
They're wrong. Start with Al Qaeda. In September 1998, Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, a top Al Qaeda operative, visited Liberia and met with Taylor and senior members of the Revolutionary United Front (RUF), the vicious Taylorcontrolled militia that invaded Sierra Leone in 1991 to take over the country's diamond mines. Abdullah trained Al Qaeda recruits in explosives in Afghanistan, participated in operations against Americans in Somalia, and helped plan the East African embassy bombings in 1998. The U.S. government currently offers a $25 million reward for information leading to his arrest. And Abdullah's meeting with Taylor was no social visit. Rather it led to a relationship in which Al Qaeda bought large quantities of diamonds from the RUF in exchange for weapons and cash. The operation, which peaked in the months before September 11, 2001, is believed to have offered Al Qaeda a way to convert its assets into a form that could be moved across borders more easily. The Taylor–Al Qaeda relationship has been carefully documented by The Washington Post's Douglas Farah, by a yearlong European intelligence investigation, and, most recently, in a 100-page report the nongovernmental organization Global Witness released in April. Liberia's links to Al Qaeda, in other words, are far more well-documented than Iraq's. And, yet, they have never been cited by anyone in the Bush administration.


"I think Taylor must be tried and imprisoned," says Republican Representative Ed Royce, Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Africa. "He's spoken of a brief exile and a cooling-off period. That's unacceptable. There can't be peace in the region with him free. ... There are several hundred thousand human beings who lost their lives because of this individual." Royce is correct: Whether or not the United States sends troops to stabilize Liberia, our West Africa policy will be a failure unless we insist that Taylor go before the court. Let's hope President Bush comes to understand this as well.
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