Attacks from Freeperville: Kerry's 2001 discharge...

Ok kids, take a deep breath and start unspinning the lies! here's the latest to be passed onto me by a group of braindead freeperlanders. Please don't attack the messenger...

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Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore.... Kerry has adamantly refused to
authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because
of his phony battle medals. The probable real reason is below.
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He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30
years after his ostensible service term had ended. This is very much
out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.
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There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than
Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable.
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My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He
appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the
Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge
was then granted.
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His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings
on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy,
along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor
under fire. Hopefully, this will blow up in his face before October
15th.
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On 18 Feb. 1966, John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the
Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).
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On 18 Feb. 1966, John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract
for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1
year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & #5).
Because John Kerry was discharged from total active duty of only 3 years
and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per
year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also
subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
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Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from
making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements
against his country, especially during time of war.
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It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable
discharge until March 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should
have ended July 1, 1972.
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Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969, asking for an early release
from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of
obligated service would be completed in December of this year."
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On Jan. 3, 1970, Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve
Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.
Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready
Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty
per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these
records been released?
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Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval
Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972, Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve -
Inactive. .
On 16 February 1978, Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval
Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready
Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against
the War:
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1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed
while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid
and comfort to the enemy.
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2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating
members of the US Senate.
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3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US
Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
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4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television,
and condemned the military and the USA.
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5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in
direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
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Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code
while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of
Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting
with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's
Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and
Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests
against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct
violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines
treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
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The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person
shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of
President and Vice- President ... having previously taken an oath to
support the Constitution of the United States, engaged in
insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to
the enemies thereof."
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At the White House, press secretary Scott McClellan said he couldn't say specifically whether Mr. Bush signed Standard Form 180, but the president did request and release his own military records in February.
    "I don't believe he signed any form, but he did authorize making his military records available publicly," Mr. McClellan said. "We have released all the records, and reporters were allowed to look at his medical records as well."


http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040818-121345-3874r.htm


As far as the rest of that bullshit is concerned I see no sources nothing but empty talk. I could say there are WMD's hidden at my neighbor's house but that doesn't make it so.

:evilgrin:

Freepers would spend that much time and energy READING about what their leader is doing to this country....

I promise myself daily that I will not scream at my TV anymore. But, damn it, I scream again the next day. THEY'RE ON HIS WEBSITE A**HOLE!!!!!

Gotta get me some prozac!

This is the kind of BS, maggot brained propaganda that they hope to push into the mainstream.. and the kind of crap that the Chimp's campaign crew is hoping to quell among the cheetos and budweiser crowd.

This is how you fight a political war: with innuendo and smear. Ethics are out the f*ing window.

through yet.

There are Dem callers too, and most do a pretty good job of telling the truth. It is a bit surprising there are so many people who just believe what they hear without checking other sources.

service. They terrified of him because he was the real thing.

:spank:

I've been part of DU for a while, and I see this word every so often. Who or what is it?

The object of right-wing obsession and envy.

is interpreting this the way he wants it to be. Doesn't make it so. How would he explain the military going along with it if the charges were even remotley true ?

Unlike Bush who we know for a fact used influence to chicken shit out of combat then used influence again to lazy ass out of his duty in the gaurd. Then used influence again to get his discharge. Used influence now to cover it all up.

So who are all of the Navy officers that were involved in this vast conspiracy to fake Kerry's military record again ?

He was honorably discharged. Do a search for this (not very difficult) and you will find a large thread wherein this exact attack was debunked. This is a waste of time--even more so the second time around. Why are you wasting DU's time with it again?

You have to be a donor to use the search function, and it appears that he is not, so the 'ease' in search doesnt exist.

what's being said about their candidate? Have I committed some sin here?

Shame, shame, shame.

Ignore these people that are bitching at you. If you have a question, post it. There are lots of folks that would be more than happy to help you.

..Washington Post, neither Kerry nor Bush have signed that form 180 releasing all records.