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jn2375 Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:08 AM
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McCain and Powell are traitors
What an ugly thing to say, but sadly its true. After watching the ad from realvoices.org (Mothers Tears) and listening to Sy Hersch on the Daily Show last night I spent a sleepless night. McCain and Powell who I used to look at as hero's are knowingly backing this destructive administration. An administration bent on destroying our country. By choosing to stand by this administration they have demonstrated their disloyalty to the American people. Politics trumps the well being of this country. How will history judge these two men? As hero's or traitors who choose to turn their backs on America when she needed them most.

I truly cry of this country.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:13 AM
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1. Yup.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:29 AM
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2. I'm weary of the word traitor
being tossed around like confetti. I certainly don't agree with McCain or Powell, and I'm deeply disappointed that Powell didn't resign as a form of protest, but traitors they ain't.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:24 PM
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4. well, I guess you won't be crossed off Powell's Christmas card list, then
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:28 PM
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5. Why can't we call an apple an apple?
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 03:15 PM by K-W
Colin Powell is the secertary of state in an administration that was chosen in violation of of our laws, that went to war in violation of our laws and constitution.

You sure set the bar for traitor pretty damn high, what does he have to do, drop a nuke on washington?
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:43 PM
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10. Curious....What would you call this?
Traitor
(a.) Traitorous.
(n.) One who violates his allegiance and betrays his country; one guilty of treason; one who, in breach of trust, delivers his country to an enemy, or yields up any fort or place intrusted to his defense, or surrenders an army or body of troops to the enemy, unless when vanquished; also, one who takes arms and levies war against his country; or one who aids an enemy in conquering his country. See Treason.
(n.) Hence, one who betrays any confidence or trust; a betrayer.
(v. t.) To act the traitor toward; to betray; to deceive.


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smitty Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:53 PM
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12. Powell and McCain
I agree with cali, "traitor" has been used scattergun by both the left and right and so, by now, everyone's been labeled a traitor. A lack of political insight or courage is not treason. Ideally, Powell would do the right thing and resign in protest while McCain can still throw his support behind Kerry---his dislike of Bush is well known.

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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:49 AM
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3. They've definitely lost my respect (not that they care)
I always defined patriotism as a sense that there was something greater than just myself. That my country and the people within it are worth fighting for and protecting. This obviously includes the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and the notion that this is the land of opportunity...where people from other countries can come here with nothing but the shirts on their backs, work hard, and truly experience the American dream.

My sense of morality is also the idea that there is something greater than myself and that all the people on this planet have value. That war is rarely necessary, and helping those who need the most help greatly benefits us all in the end...no matter what our racial or cultural differences are.

I use to think that McCain and Powell thought along these lines as well. But by putting their career ahead of patriotism and morality, they've lost my respect. That's the problem with the truly great politicians like Paul Wellstone...I start to have hope that other politicians could also be driven by a sense that there was something greater than just their personal ambition.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:29 PM
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6. Neither of them ever had my respect
but they are displaying thier true colors for everyone to see now.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:36 PM
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7. What did they ever do to...
earn your respect in the first place? Colon Bowel has been a scumbag pissboy for the far-right since Vietnam...and McCain is a mentally unstable Stockholm Syndrome suffering bootlick. I scratch my head whenever I hear someone talking about Powell's "moderate" voice...When was he ever a moderate?...it seems like the media started that rumour. The same goes for that schizoid McCain...sheesh, remember that pic from last month where Bush is hugging McCain who is trying to pull GW's trousers down....sickening!
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:09 PM
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8. Not too long ago..
people at DU where touting McCain as defense Secretary for Kerry, looking back I now realized it must have been a stooge that started that riot.

Can you imagine that? ah!!

Shame on us for buying into that crap.


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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:35 PM
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9. They are Republicans. What do you expect?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:52 PM
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11. The Whipped Dog-McCain

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 05:08 PM
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14. You aren't the only one who is "disturbed"
That picture is horrifying.
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Bran Bal Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:55 PM
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13. McCain is the repub partys happy face
They use him to lure un-happy democrats and those who wont't vote for fascists too them. What these people don't realize is that he backs those fascists they would never support. McCain is not now, nor has he ever been, opposed to these people.
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