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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 11:56 AM
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Do news sources purposely carry stories that make progressives look bad?
Here in California, a progressive sued to get schools to drop "Redskins" as their mascot. Regardless of what you think personally about this issue, it seems like a petty move in light of the bigger picture. We can't afford it right now.

The Modesto Bee carried the story on the front page and I had to feel my stomach turn as Rico Oller(R) weighed in on the subject. I actually found myself agreeing with him when he said this is political correctness gone rampant. (My family are personal friends of Rico Oller. For the record, he's an asswipe.)

In my opinion, this lawsuit made progressives look really stupid.
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MousePlayingDaffodil Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:00 PM
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1. How is using an entire race of people . . .
. . . as described by a racial slur, as a mascot for a high school sports team appropriate? In what respect is opposition to that "political correctness gone rampant"?
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:01 PM
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2. i must guess...
that calling the dodgers the "l.a.niggers" would be okay for you.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:22 PM
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3. Seems like it
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 12:24 PM by StClone
I've never seen a composite story on why female protesters of Bush have had their mouth covered (assaulted), hair pulled, or tossed into the slammer (KIA mom).
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:28 PM
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4. Tune in for Monday Night Football
Featuring the New York Honkies vs. the Tennessee Cracker Asses.

Nope, you're right. Racist slurs as sports mascots are political correctness gone rampant. And the cartoon representation of a grinning unshaven redneck in a wife-beater holding a cheap beer in one hand and a shotgun in the other with his missing teeth and beer belly shouldn't offend anyone whatsoever. Can't imagine what the fuss is about.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:15 PM
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5. What I'm saying is now is not the time.
We can't afford this fight right now in the same way we can't afford Ralph Nader. Maybe I personally would prefer that the term "Redskins" not be used, but I think there are more pressing issues right now, like the trashing of Constitutional freedoms and the thousands of people dying in Iraq.

The name of a mascot? Sorry, this is not the time. Maybe in a few years we can afford to debate this issue, but not now.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:23 PM
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6. that assumes people can only be activists for the most
"pressing" cause, meaning "smaller" injustices will NEVER be rectified or even addressed until no-one only the planet is poor or hungry.

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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:09 PM
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7. apparently, the right thing should be done only when it convenient
for the dem party.
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GreenInNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:25 PM
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8. Now is not the time?
I have heard this statement being used way too many times during this election. Now is not the time for gays to press for equal rights, now is not the time for women to press for fair wages, now is not the time for labor leaders to strike for fair contracts, now is not the time for native americans to protest bigotry.

This is crap. This is one of the reasons people are leaving the Democratic Party, no backbone.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:40 PM
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9. Probably
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 08:41 PM by camero
It was more than likely published as to make it look like conservatives were for free speech when we know they aren't. It's spin.

Besides the fact that the progressive is right to sue a PUBLIC school for using a racial epithet.

It's not a new tactic. Notice the scorn heaped by the media on the people who tried to bring attention to the naming of the Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians, and Atlanta Braves.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:17 PM
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10. "Ladyhawk thinks this through."
I have enough Cherokee blood in me that if I did the proper research, I could prove it and be able to check the "Native American" box on official forms. I also enjoy creating Native American art and researching Native American culture, although I haven't done as much of that as I've wanted to. During the past year, I've considered changing my real name because the old one has come to feel like a burden. I've researched the Cherokee language for surname ideas.

But I am white. I never had to contend with living on a reservation or being discriminated against due to skin color (until I tried to work with minority kids in the inner city of Fresno).

I guess what it boils down to is that I honestly never considered the mascot "Redskin" a racial epithet. But that's not up to me to decide. I suppose it's up to Native Americans who look Native American and had to contend with discrimination.

The only discrimination I've felt is gender discrimination. And it weighed heavily on my heart, having grown up in a fundamentalist home. Would I feel comfortable having a team called, say, the "Springfield Bitches"? Actually, I don't think I'd have a problem with it. There are times when I can call myself a "bitch" with pride. (Of course, there was that big flame war awhile back about this, so it probably isn't a good idea to start it again so let's don't, OK?)

I've never heard how the majority of Native Americans feel about this and I certainly don't want to hurt anyone. I've gone through a tremendous transformation over the past fifteen years and especially over the past four. My brain is spinning.

All I can say is that if I agree with Rico Oller about something, there's a good chance I need to re-analyze my position.

God...I'm tired. :cry:
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