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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:42 AM
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TBTM "Bush Knew - An American Requiem" flash REDUX dispels BS film
I reworked my "Bush Knew - An American Requiem" 911 Flash in time to dispel the BS that people will be seeing on Showtime (cable) when they release that FAKED movie of Bush being a Leader, barking orders - coherent.. in short, a HERO.

I was so sickened by the announcement of that film being created and released in time for the anniversary of a horrific occasion that in the least Bush MAY have let happen, at the most he MAY have had something to do with..

It contains clips of the actual footage made that fateful morning by local TV people that showed Bush sitting ON HIS ASS for at least 29 minutes (probably more) - and coupled with what the media was saying during that period (and his bizarre lies) shows that BUSH KNEW - AND DID NOTHING.

He read a book on Goats to children - endangering their very lives as he was at a KNOWN location - it was no secret where he was that day, yet he sat there and once again made TARGETS of everyone around him.

This flash has been trimmed down from the older (and it was one of my first so I didn't know how to reduce file size then) version of 8 Megs to less than 4 - it will load fine (it has a preloader now) and so many, many people loved this upon it's first release so much that I had to beg whatreallyhappened.com to host it - I couldn't afford the bandwidth!

But now we are more ready to move this to the public - please pass it around and get the word out (especially since we got mentioned on FOX and in the National Review as Bush Haters) to everyone, that there is a REASON to hate BUSH.

He kills Americans with Lies and InAction at the least, and has only himself at heart. Just look at his face in this and remember He KNEW when he walked in that school what was happening.

Enjoy and turn up the speakers - the music is "LaCrimosa" of Mozart's Requiem in D.

Here's the url: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

thanks for your support.
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stoystown Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:46 AM
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1. Excellent - as always
Keep uo the awesome work.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:52 AM
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2. I am crying after watching your animation
The haunting music is so appropriate... How can we get this on T.V.? The minute by minute analysis is so effective and shocking...
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:00 AM
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3. His Behavior Gives Me The Creeps
some hero
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:00 AM
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4. Awesome!!!!
I'm sending a link to everyone I know!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:03 AM
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5. Excellent, symbolman!
Why was he out of the loop? And who was in charge?

I can't help but think of his behavior and his actions before 9/11. He had taken more time off for vacation than any other pResident in history. He had threatened people around the world. He had ignored long-time trouble spots, such as Israel and Palestine. He was the epitome of a "do-nothing" pResident...
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:06 PM
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33. I think he knew
why else would they have the guy on vacation, washington was cleared out -- he'd been briefed (like he listens or can read) and they knew something was coming..

Even Ashcroft was warned to stay off commercial airliners - that was a CBS story..

too many coincidences.. if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck and talks like a dork..

it's Bush.. :)
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Garage Queen Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:05 AM
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6. Slight quibble:
Isn't "Lacrymosa" one word?

I think the middle section would play the best on TV. Short, visually effective, and packs a wollop.

Good job!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:10 AM
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7. It is one word
Lacrimosa (no y but i). It means tearful.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 12:31 AM
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52. agree
about editing it down to the middle section for TV

Second time I've seen this (or a variation) It is really powerful stuff.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:15 AM
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8. A very emotional experience.
Excellent account of that horrifying morning.
I'm going to send the link to my congress persons.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:17 AM
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9. You might want a content advisory, Symbolman...
I may be the only person on the planet, but I had never seen the pictures of people jumping out of the windows. Not a way to wake up on a Friday morning.

Otherwise, I really like it. I wrote something a while back abotu what people did when the towers came down, and here's Bush's verse:

"I sat in a classroom and read to some kids,
Then I got on an airplane while Dick Cheney hid.
I preyed on their grief and I fed people's fears
And I learned to brew oil from Americans' tears.
I stood in the Capitol, armed with a lie,
And told grieving parents that more had to die.
And at nine every night I turned in and slept sound,
And that's what I did when the towers came down."

@#$! useless sack of @#$!.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:14 PM
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75. Great flash, sm. Very moving poem, PA (NT)
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:29 AM
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10. Kudos and thanks for sharing your fine work!
Very well done and succinctly said.
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 12:10 PM
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11. Symbolman, you should get Larry Flynt to run this on TV...

HeÕs got the balls and money to do it. :evilgrin:

You should also get someone to narrate so people donÕt take
their eyes away from the burring towers and the smiling chimp.

Great work man.

Bush knew

and did nothing
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:09 PM
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34. Flynt should
offer a million bucks for the entire unedited Elementary school film and show it in its entirety during elections..

Bush sitting there doing NOTHING while 2662 people DIED..

worse than lazy, and more lies since.. creature..

got Larry's address? :)
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vision Donating Member (818 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:51 PM
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48. Quick google
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:28 AM
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60. under First Amendment issues
there's a link to submit stories......the e-mail addy is comments@larryflynt.com.

I sent one with a link to TBTM.

Worth a try!

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:30 AM
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62. good idea. n/t
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 12:51 PM
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66. Thanks
I submitted it along with a plea to Flynt to get that WHOLE UNEDITED film, the entire 29 minutes or so of BUSH sitting there..

someone has that and if Larry offered a ton of money maybe they would part with it..

imagine that fully shown on TV the whole thing?
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 12:11 PM
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12. Symbolman, you should get Larry Flynt to run this on TV...

HeÕs got the balls and money to do it. :evilgrin:

You should also get someone to narrate so people donÕt take
their eyes away from the burring towers and the smiling chimp.

Great work man.

Bush knew

and did nothing
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 01:48 PM
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19. What about Bill Moyers?????????/
n/t
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 03:59 PM
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22. Bill Moyers would be great but

Larry Flynt could buy time on the big three networks thus getting more exposure than PBS.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:30 PM
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36. anybody know
how to go about getting larry flynt to get this on the air? on prime time? kick, kick, kick
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 12:22 PM
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13. OH MY GOD!!!! Splitting the screen like that
is THE MOST DAMNING THING I'VE SEEN YET regarding this asshole fuckwad.

Wow. THIS HAS TO BE SEEN BY EVERYONE.

Sorry for the shouting but this NEEDS TO BE SHOUTED
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 12:25 PM
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14. and for those with big pipes check out SGTV version here...
http://globalfreepress.com/images/shadowgovernment/movies/sgtv/wtr/Ep1small.mov
(52.2M)

the message needs to be spread far and wide :bounce:

salute to all those who carry the message forward :toast:

peace
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 12:39 PM
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15. While your video is being narrated, the

bottom of the screen should read

Is this the behavior of a leader?

Why did he sit there for so long?
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 12:46 PM
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16. kick
:kick:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 01:35 PM
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17. I can't believe this thread has so few posts
Thanks to those that took the time to post and all the fine comments..

Jesus, do you know how MANY people will be watching BUSH pretend to be John WAYNE on Sept 7th?

It's on SHOWTIME and that's a little hard to compete with, but can someone please at least KICK this thread now and then?

I'd get a better response if I started a DEAN IS GAY thread and that's really sad..

I'm honestly thinking of quitting the political animation biz, I'm basically making all these for nothing and going broke (no job) at the same time I'm getting sued by people like Savage..

may be time to go work in a hardware story and simplify my life.. I guess everyone has it under control, and Stranger can do the animations..

maybe I'm just pooped out, at least I tried..

again, thanks for the comments, they make all the difference, really.. and the donations are all that keep us going..

that is appreciated more than you know..

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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 01:47 PM
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18. If I had a laptop. . . .
. . . I'd sit in a park with it and play this video over and over. Or on a street corner.

I'd take it to the people who don't have internet, who don't surf the web.

I'd take it to Labor (??) Day picnics.

I'd take it to political gatherings.

I'd show it to friends and family.

But I don't have a laptop. . . .
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 04:20 PM
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24. Don't get frustrated, pal.
This one will get out. Too good not to.

Take a breath and get ready to kick some radio butt tonight.

-as
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 04:57 PM
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29. damn! won't download on dialup

i'll try later....
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:36 PM
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37. Keep doing the right thing bro

To thy own self be true.

I donÕt know why the horse race threads are so sexy at DU either, but to each his own.
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:49 PM
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38. Take this under consideration as well symbolman

DU and America may not be ready to "handle the truth"

Which is precisely why we shouldnÕt stop TELLING THE TRUTH.

Some will never accept that something this sinister could happen in America but
if people like us donÕt make some noise and get in peoples faces, 911 will pass
Like the Kennedy, King, Malcolm X assassinations.

DonÕt let this pass
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:52 PM
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39. This is bitter truth which is never received with applause.
This is bitter truth which is never received with applause.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:59 PM
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49. !
ah, the IS IT ALL WORTH IT blues...

it can get to us... but you're doing great work at a bizarre point in history, sparks are being struck... best stay in the vortex until the ride has come to a full and complete halt.

Then make the movie deal in your old age, cash in, and scream in horror as Eric Roberts plays you in the made4tv 2016 movie.

in conclusion, don't stop!

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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:07 PM
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72. Hey, who plays me?
Sean Penn, mebbe. Or Johnny Depp, perhaps....

-as
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 11:52 AM
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64. It is not playing. I have reloaded, tried different browsers.
Edited on Sat Aug-30-03 11:58 AM by alfredo
Before today it did play but hung near the end. This is with a dial up connection.

I think it is going to work. I am passing this on to my vet list. Slowly but surely, they are turning against ole Whitleass.


Edited because it is Saturday, and because I felt like it. You have a problem with that?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 02:12 PM
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20. Have you made these available on VHS and/or DVD?
You could certainly sell or donate copies at anti-bush rallies, or pro-Dem candidate rallies, and reach a whole bunch of people who don't use the internet very much. Few are the lucky with broadband internet, but many are the masses with VCRs.

Also, even if you can't get these works shown on national TV, please send them to local cable access TV around the country.

You could send a VHS or 8mm copy to Jim Lockhart (eagleye@PhilosopherSeed.org) and maybe get them shown on CATV in Oregon, for instance.

TBTM masterpieces are far too valuable to stagnate on the 'net.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 12:35 AM
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53. SELL--DEFINITELY!
That would be a great way to finance your other endeavors AND get the video out.

Imagine would impact just a couple hundred of these videos floating around the country would have.!!!!!
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 02:23 PM
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21. Awesome job, symbolman.
I sent this to everyone before you edited it, but I'm sending it out again. I also like the idea of getting it on VHS or DVD, along with your other work. I would buy several copies to distribute far and wide.

Thanks again for all your hard work. You are appreciated!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 04:13 PM
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23. Fix your donation link! It rejects me (+ my card)
because I don't give paypal info (which I don't want to remember because it's a nuisance and never works)
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 04:27 PM
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25. I will kick. Your work deserves much more than that
I feel so bad that we have not helped enough. Your work is really good and brings reality to that tragedy.
I will contribute. But have you tried to ask DUers directly? I notice that they contribute a lot when it is a direct appeal.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 04:47 PM
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26. KICK
n/t
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 05:08 PM
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30. And kick again
Very powerful, moving and deeply disturbing.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 04:52 PM
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27. Awesome, Symbolman!
It took me a few minutes to calm down and gain control of myself after seeing this - my son as well. You've shown pictures I have never seen, and they are devastating - and then that asshole is laughing and being an out of the loop idiot.

My son asked me to suggest to you to submit your work to www.newgrounds.com . Your work will be viewed by tens of thousands. The pugs hate the owner Tom Folp. There is no charge.

Thank you, Symbolman, and American Stranger for doing what you are doing. Much appreciation to you both.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 04:56 PM
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28. Great presentation
Powerful stuff.
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FubarFly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 05:09 PM
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31. Very powerful...
Excellent work as always.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 05:10 PM
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32. I cry everytime I see this.
I wish there was some way to get it on commercial TV.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:21 PM
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35. Excellent work!
Stark, horrific, powerful!
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 08:08 PM
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40. Hey Symbolman wondered if you considered this or 2 words
Edited on Fri Aug-29-03 08:14 PM by Valerie5555
BARRY ZWICKER or BARRIE ZWICKER.


The guy who did the 9 -11 Great Deception documentary. Either you could Google "Vision TV" or try this link or http://www.visiontv.ca, at least I think it is for contact info. Vision was the Canadian network that had the documentary in question and maybe you could try to get a hold of him through them.



On edit though I e mailed him with the link, his e mail address is

bzwicker@sympatico.ca

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 08:25 PM
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41. I've been hoping someone
would do a split screen presentation of W and the events that were unfolding that morning.

Bravo.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 08:25 PM
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42. Kicking to the Top!
:kick:
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 08:36 PM
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43. A very touching and well thought out flash
The people of the United States should have the opportunity to watch this instead of more of the slack-jaw in brief's little sock stuffed swaggering photo-ops. It'd cure what ails the country FAST.
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The White Rose Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:03 PM
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44. Thank-you.
...
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:44 PM
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45. One Correction
You say at one point that "They knew the South Tower had been hit before they left the hotel room."

That should be the North Tower. WTC 1 was the North Tower. WTC 2 (hit second) was the South Tower.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:03 PM
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46. kick
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:05 PM
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47. Thanks for your help re the music for I was curious since last year as to
what that haunting song was.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 12:15 AM
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50. Powerful.
Edited on Sat Aug-30-03 12:18 AM by tom_paine
Some constructive criticism, take it or leave it, you're the Flash genius who should be on national TV and I'll be contributing by and by...

Here it is -- perhaps a more direct timeline straightforward along until the falling of the second tower, and maybe with a little clock in the lower corner to indicate exact time correlation

Having said that, this is a terribly sad and moving piece of history. And an outrage.

Thank you.

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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 12:29 AM
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51. Your work is awesome
and tragic
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 12:44 AM
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54. Reasonable enough...
The replay of Bush waiting his turn at one of his brother's Florida elementary schools; recieving then 'the message', the look on his face was never as though, "Shit Howdy, Boys & Girls!!!! Our nation is under attack!!" It was clearly more akin to,

"It has begun..."

ps; nice Flash, by the way ~
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 02:30 AM
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55. And it always puzzled me
how Andrew Card could impart so much information on the Second plane by leaning over BUSH and then backing away.. he was in Bush's face maybe 3-4 seconds according to that film..

what could he have said in such little time?

"The fix is in"?

"Shut up and looks puzzled"

"You look real purty today"
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:33 AM
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61. Andrew Card?
How bout, "Thank your Dad for those defense stocks."
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 07:45 AM
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56. Keeping it Kicked
n/t
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #56
57. Just wanted to stop by and say: Good work!
- I look forward to all your stuff with great anticipation.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:34 AM
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59. this is great - one nitpick
A fantastic, sober piece of work. And I can see you used Paul Thompson's Timeline, which is also good.

One nitpick -- about Bush being asked about the crash before he leaves the hotel. I've done a ton of research on what Bush did that morning and afternoon
(see: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayaninterestingday.html)

and it's hard to know what to make of that ABC quote. It contradicts *everything* else ever reported about that day and makes little to no sense chronologically.

I haven't been able to go back and actually watch ABC's coverage, but I have to believe this is a mistaken report. And it sounds very much like what Bush is asked in the schoolroom and he says the same thing: "he'll talk about it later."

To judge by the enormous amount of coverage, I think Bush is in the limo heading to the school by 8:40 -- quite a while before the first plane hits.

I'm not sure how much stock you want to put into that ABC report. Just my opinion.

Also, the quote of Bush seeing the first plane.
That is also on the White House web site (and he said it twice). That might make a better source to use. They are Dec 4, 2001 and Jan 5 2002:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011204-17.html
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020105-3.html

Regardless, this is a great piece of work -- excellent choice of music -- and it is very important that people see this.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 11:38 AM
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63. Wonderful resource
great job, lots of detail, well put together!

Can't believe they still have those lies on the white house pages, considering we already caught them going back and retroactively changing the "combat over" to "major combat over" on May first (in Iraq) since Bush made a revised statement - even the DOD site changed the pages http://www.takebackthemedia.com/whitehouselies.html

SEVEN different stories eh? wow.. didn't know that..

He'd been told in the limo, of course he knew.. the limo should have gone straight to the airport and had a fighter pilot escort..

I was in the USAF 1971-74 and had a top secret clearance - once had to go to a scramble unit to deliver some papers, and the Klaxon rang as I was walking in - about 20 guys KNOCKED ME DOWN and ran over me like a cartoon character being flattened, literally... by the time I was able to get up and rush over to the door window those jets were IN THE AIR..

So I know all this FAA and NORAD not responding had to be a stand down order, it had to be.. there is no other answer..

this was rigged folks and Bush needs to be imprisoned (along with ROve, Cheney, etc) for THIS alone, if not for destroying our country with other lies as well...

these guys are like a tape worm and will not leave willingly..

thanks!
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:22 AM
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58. Well this is how
it made me feel.
Wanted to punch my computer monitor/Bush and was crying at the same time.

What you've shown in this flash is one of the many reasons I will never stop trying to get Whistle-Ass out of the WH!! Bush* is a 'International Gangster' that needs to be stopped!!


I will be sending this link out to my email list and will continue donating to TBTM.
Keep up the good work! Thank You!!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 12:16 PM
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65. It worked this time. Terrific --- Kick
Kick
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 01:10 PM
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67. Very well done,
thank you.

unnerving.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 02:47 PM
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68. Symbolman...
you've done it again. I watched the earlier version yesterday morning and the newer version last night. Very disturbing, as it should be.

I also read your interview with Buzzflash over the Savage suit. I'm so very sorry for the stresses you and your wife must be facing at the hands of such thugs. But I am so glad there have been those who are able to come out and offer you support of varying kinds.

So, I wanted to come back and give this post a little kick for you. :)
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 05:20 PM
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69. thanks Hippywife
yeah, we've been going through the grinder with lawsuits, to the point where we have to sell our home. Our home has been the financing for running the site, that and t-shirt sales. We've taken all the risks, that's how much we are willing to put it on the line.

Plus nonstop working on the site, posting (we have some help there, a fine pal and astute person helping) recording the radio show, beating the bushes for funding for the ARMY OF ONE commercial to go National with it (as promised to contributors - it takes a lot to make it happen), recording and running a radio commercial for the ARMY OF ONE..

Also ordering whistles and sending them for contributions (along with some great red, white and blue earplugs) along with mailing the shirts, a lot of work!

We have been doing a lot and it's a grind.. some web work here and there but thanks to Bush everyone is broke.. and going broke while moving ain't fun either, hard to keep the dsl turned on that way..

Sympathy is much appreciated and very welcome.

I just hope that people pass these animations around so we can turn the govt around, and get that tech bubble back :)

Thanks for all the help, and great insights, everyone..
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DarbyUSMC Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 06:49 PM
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70. I'm speechless. Thank you for your work.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 07:35 PM
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71. I couldn't get it all--however, the 95% I did see was excellent.
Even with a direct download it'd get up to 95% and choke. We tried three times in a row on our dialup...

I agree with all on here who say it needs to be seen. Good work.

Laura
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:20 PM
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73. I'm sending that link everywhere
Thanks again
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:45 PM
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74. Everytime I see this....
It gives me goosebumps. The additions are excellent as well. Thanks for your work Symbolman. I'm sure those who study history in the future will find your work very compelling.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:10 PM
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76. keep at it....
Your stuff is great and always done brilliantly. Don't quit; that's what they want you to do. Just after Sept 11th, I saw the Emma Booker video in it's entirety and showed it to everyone at work. We were stunned - what got me most was that when Andy Card whispered into his ear, Card didn't wait ONE SECOND for any kind of reply - what the Hell is up with that? A couple of days later I went back to show the video to someone else and couldn't find it in it's entirety anywhere. The men in black suits had visited whoever had the video and that would be the end of that. If this video was shown just for one day on national TV/cable, Bush's cover would be blown to show the world just what a real coward looks like. I can't believe SOMEONE doesn't have the video in it's entirety; someone who get it out to the airwaves in a secret manner so they wouldn't be sued by the person who took the video, who is also obviously a traitor. Keep up the good work, Symbolman - we need you. I donated and expect to get two whistles to blow in Sally Baron's memory - what a woman.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 08:12 AM
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77. kick n/t
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 08:46 AM
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78. Take Back the Media was one of the first sites I found when
I got suspicious of Dubya and decided to do some research. I'm not even sure how I got there the first time. Your animations made me question a lot of previously-held assumptions. At this point, I really do believe that Bush allowed the 9-11 attacks to take place in order to consolidate power. I know this isn't 100% provable, but the same gut instinct that told me something was wrong with the Bush presidency tells me that something is really wrong with the whole 9-11 picture.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 01:56 PM
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79. My policy is that
when I take off my tin foil hat, turn it around and aim it UP, it becomes a satellite dish and then I'm Broadcasting :)

My gut tells me that the fix was in.. they kept Bush on the ranch and only attacked while congress and most of washington was GONE..

What gives it away to me is having been in the USAF I CANNOT believe that no jets were scramled IMMEDIATELY..

NO WAY. Not Possible.

Plus, look at everyone that got raises or moved up the food chain.. they were supposed to be FIRED and drummed out of the govt for this happening..

That's the real kicker, they all got a pat on the back from Bush.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:09 PM
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81. I've always liked the LIHOP/DoubleCross scenerio...

BushCo was 'in' on a ***TERRORIST*** plot to hijack multiple planes

But, the plot was for BushCo to HEROICALLY come to the rescue with few (if any) US casualties AND a mandate to initiate the endless **WAR ON TERRA** against al qaeda in Afghanistan (and, while we're there, secure that pipeline)

but, double-cross.

BushCo though they were dealing with agents that would NOT commit suicide... oops, sorry about that WTC

it's one theory of many but makes LIHOP more plausible to those who cannot fathom BushCo complicity in the full outcome of 9/11

it would explain *'s stunned inaction at the Booker School.

we may never know.

(and damnit, I STILL can't get this to download for me. gets about 50% and just stops... didn't see anything on the site for a 'lighter' version)

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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 03:56 PM
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80. I'm bumping this
I think it's important.. remember folks the republicans will be literally standing on the bodies of the dead there for their Convention..

Here's a page I started as well:

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushknew.html
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:40 PM
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82. One suggestion, mr. symbolman -- highlight the hour hand of the clock
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 04:41 PM by 0rganism
You use a clock with the minutes from 9:00 to 9:30 highlighted (12 to 6), during the split screen portion. However, the hour hand is seen a little before the 9, not moving, and should probably be given similar highlighting treatment for clarity (9 to 9.5, perhaps at the radius of extension of the hour hand). When I first saw your film, I was somewhat unclear as to the time, because of my subconscious reaction to the clock hands. They just didn't look right.

It's a shame when a niggling detail like that can distract from the absolute horror of the situation, but unfortunately it did, for me anyway.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 06:06 PM
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83. Thanks for doing this
concise reiteration of the basic questions about this murdering bastards bizarre behavior on the morning of his greatest crime.


IMO he freaked on that day and had to pull himself together. There was another work done awhile back showing Bush for the full twenty minutes or so sitting in the dark while the teacher had the kids recite some lesson. His demeanor is very strange, like someone trying to get it together. Since I know this callous drug demented bastard and the BFEE don't give a damn about people, proven in nearly everything they have done, the only reason he would be rattled is because he is worrying about his own neck.

Fantastic job. I hope someday that the dedication to getting the truth out from people like you will be appreciated. But I don't think it will.

Remember the official version of Kennedy's assasination is that Oswald did it alone even though the Zapruder film of Kennedy jerking back and to the left along with all the other unanswered questions makes that scenario very, very unlikely. The point being is that these fascist swine can just keep repeating the same shit over and over until people are conditioned to accept it.
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