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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:56 PM
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flu vaccine from England
During Friday's debate Bush mentioned that we will get drugs from Canada when we know that they're safe. Yet we get flu vaccines from England...are there other major Pharmaceutical companies that manufacture drugs in other countries?
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Damn Hippie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:05 PM
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1. 25% of drugs in the US
are manufactured overseas. Of the remaining %75, many of the ingredients come from outside the US (Switzerland, UK, Germany, Hungary, Isreal, and even FRANCE and INDIA!).
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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:12 PM
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2. thats what i was looking for
I had heard this somewhere but couldnt remember the figures.
Thanks!
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:14 PM
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3. US Pharm employs many in The Republic of Ireland
As do pharmaceutical companies based in other countries.

And the half of our flu vaccine supply that is still good was manufactured by a French company. The Brit vaccine was cheaper, which means lots of public health systems, always low on funds, ordered from there.

I've seen a few letters to the editor that blamed lawsuits for the flu vaccine no longer being made here. More knowledgeable sources point to a lower profit margin as the reason.
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pelagius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:23 PM
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4. The manufacturer (Chiron) is an American company...
...that has a manufacturing facility in Liverpool. The flu vaccine is a difficult one to make and sh!t happens. This is hardly a case of sub-standard "Third World" medicines threatening our health.
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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:48 PM
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5. he spews so much sh*t
i makes me sick. When the person in the forum asked him the question about drugs from Canada and he said that crap about not knowing if it was safe..I was thinking to myself WTF??? I had heard that a lot of the drugs we get are made in other countries so my thinking was he and his friends aren't getting kick backs from the drug companies in Canada so he doesn't want us to have them.
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Damn Hippie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 03:28 PM
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6. I agree
My point was that we already import plenty of drugs anyway. There are plenty of regulatory mechanisms in place to assure their safety right now. We don't need to wait five years to figure out how to import drugs from Canada that mostly came from the US in the first place.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 04:45 PM
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7. But the factory did have a history of problems
http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/stories2004/business/20041011220807.shtml
Managers would boost vaccine production 37 percent at its aging British factory to grab a bigger slice of the U.S. market, growing amid fears of vaccine shortages.
...
Chiron is now focused on fixing problems at the Liverpool plant, bought last year for nearly $1 billion despite its history of contamination problems, so it can deliver flu vaccine to the USA next year.
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It is unclear what steps, such as beefing up staff or equipment, Chiron took to boost production at the former PowderJect Pharmaceuticals plant. Executives, in conference calls with securities analysts since buying the plant, spoke often of raising productivity, comparing the Liverpool plant’s performance with Chiron factories in Italy and Germany.

Four years ago, British health authorities told Celltech, which then owned the factory, to withdraw an oral polio vaccine because of concerns about contamination at the plant, according to British news accounts. Celltech’s production problems were coupled with a collapse in sales. It sold the plant to PowderJect in September 2000.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 04:46 PM
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8. It's not that hard to make
it's just not that profitable.

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