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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:02 PM
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I'm calling for a petition requiring smirk to have physical before Nov. 2

How does one start a petition? I don't speak legalese (and get then and than mixed up lol)

really!

we should demand a physical! after all the american people are hiring him to do a job for us. we have the right.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:07 PM
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1. Great, sign me on when you have the petition......
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 12:08 PM by whistle
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:18 PM
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2. thanks for the links
nt
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:18 PM
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3. I wanna sign it!
I wish I had info to help, but I have no idea how to start.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:23 PM
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4. Yes! We need to kick the tires on this old jalopy before people bid on it.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:25 PM
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5. Can we get a psych consult?
Wouldn't it be grand to see him diagnosed as mentally ill by a panel of renowned psychiatrists?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 01:00 PM
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6. Actually, there is a book called "The Damaged Mind of GW Bush"...
<snip>

July 1, 2004

The Damaged Mind of George W. Bush
The Madness in His Method
By KATHERINE van WORMER

In 2004 alone, major commercial publishers have published or will publish at least 25 books attacking the character and policies of George W. Bush. Outstanding among these are: Against All Enemies: Inside the White House's War on Terror in which former counterterrorism adviser Richard Clarke documented how unconcerned the Bush administration was with terrorism, pushing for strikes on Iraq even right after September 11; Plan of Attack by Bob Woodward who in his interviews with Bush and members of his cabinet confirmed the early start on a war plan to invade Iraq and revealed a disturbing statement by Bush implying the world would come to an end; and Worse than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush by former Nixon legal adviser, John Dean who stated in a TV interview that Bush's obsession with Iraq started before 9/11 but "I can't understand why."

Missing in all these studies is the answer to that question-why. Why was Bush obsessed with Iraq? My theory is this: We must seek the answer in an ambivalent father-son relationship coupled with the son's almost ferocious drive to prove himself to his father and to outdo him at the same time. Take into account recent scientific evidence of possible long-term brain damage associated with years of heavy drinking and cocaine use.

Elsewhere, Alan Bisbort and I, in articles on Bush as a dry drunk, have documented this phenomenon. Grandiosity, rigidity, and intolerance of ambiguity are the leading characteristics of what AA folks call the dry drunk syndrome. The dry drunk quits drinking, but the thinking is not really sober.

Obsessions with the bottle may be replaced by other obsessions-religious extremism, thirst for power, etc. Twelve Step programs and treatment centers are geared to help people mature in their thinking, to avoid the stinking thinking that gets them into trouble.

If you study or even skim George W.'s biography, you will quickly see the patterns-the kid who lived in the shadow of his father, the mediocre performance in the same schools where his father's reputation as a sports hero and scholar still survived, the gaining of a reputation as a prankster. George Jr.'s drinking bouts caused trouble in the military as well. His father was hardly pleased. As quoted in another new book, The Bushes, Bush Sr. in addressing a question on his son's rise to power commented, "You remember when your kid came home with two A's-and you thought she was going to fail; that's exactly what it's like."

This is why Iraq, not Afghanistan, was the source of Bush's mission, why he surrounded himself with advisers who also saw the world in terms of good and evil and who had their own motives-oil business or whatever-for heading an invasion of this particular country. Bush was driven toward Iraq because his father had fought Iraq, a battle that was not quite finished. Today, symbolically Bush treasures Saddam's gun, the gun that was confiscated when Saddam was captured. The younger Bush has achieved what his father failed to do-subdued Saddam. Similarly, he tried to revive missions on the moon and on Mars even as his father had unsuccessfully tried to do. In short, there is a madness in Bush's method. To understand that is to understand the why of Iraq.

Katherine van Wormer is Professor of Social Work at the University of Northern Iowa and the co-author of Addiction Treatment: A Strengths Perspective, 2003, Wadsworth.

<link> http://www.counterpunch.org/wormer07012004.html
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 01:03 PM
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7. Man, there is a ton of links out there on Dubya's mental state...
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Psychoanalyst describes Bush as "paranoid megalomaniac," "untreated alcoholic"
Capitol Hill Blue

June 14, 2004

A new book by a prominent Washington psychoanalyst says President George W. Bush is a "paranoid meglomaniac" as well as a sadist and "untreated alcoholic." The doctor's analysis appears to confirm earlier reports the President may be emotionally unstable.

Dr. Justin Frank, writing in Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President, also says the President has a "lifelong streak of sadism, ranging from childhood pranks (using firecrackers to explode frogs) to insulting journalists, gloating over state executions ... pumping his fist gleefully before the bombing of Baghdad."

Even worse, Dr. Frank concludes, the President's years of heavy drinking "may have affected his brain function -- and his decision to quit drinking without the help of a 12-step program him at far higher risk of relapse."

Dr. Frank's revelations comes on the heels of last week's Capitol Hill Blue exclusive that revealed increasing concern by White House aides over Bush's emotional stability.

Aides, who spoke only on condition that their names be withheld, told stories of wide mood swings by the President who would go from quoting the Bible one minute to obscenity-filled outbursts the next.

Bush shows an inability to grieve -- dating back to age 7, when his sister died. "The family's reaction -- no funeral and no mourning -- set in motion his life-long pattern of turning away from pain behind antic behavior," says Frank, who says Bush may suffer from Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.

Other findings by Dr. Frank:
. His mother, Barbara Bush -- tabbed by some family friends as "the one who instills fear" -- had trouble connecting emotionally with her son, Frank argues.

. George H.W. Bush's "emotional and physical absence during his son's youth triggered feelings of both adoration and revenge in George W."

. The President suffers from "character pathology," including "grandiosity" and "megalomania" -- viewing himself, America and God as interchangeable.


Dr. Frank has been a psychiatrist for 35 years and is director of psychiatry at George Washington University. A Democrat, he once headed the Washington Chapter of Physicians for Social Responsibility.

In an interview with The Washington Post's Richard Leiby, Dr. Frank said he began to be concerned about Bush's behavior in 2002.

"I was really very unsettled by him and I started watching everything he did and reading what he wrote, and watching him on videotape. I felt he was disturbed," Dr. Frank told Leiby. Bush, he said, "fits the profile of a former drinker whose alcoholism has been arrested but not treated."

Dr. Frank's expert recommendation? "Our sole treatment option -- for his benefit and for ours -- is to remove President Bush from office ... before it is too late."

White House spokesman Scott McClellan refused to comment on the specifics of Dr. Frank's book or the earlier story by Capitol Hill Blue.

"I don't do book reviews," McClellan said, even though he last week recommended the latest book by the Washington Post's Bob Woodward to reporters at the daily press briefing.

<link> http://www.unknownnews.net/insanity061704.html
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 01:03 PM
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8. can Congress request a physical?
nt
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 04:32 PM
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9. I'll Sign It - Bush MUST Have Comprehensive Evaluation BEFORE Nov 2
If you do one of those on-line petitions, I'll gladly sign it.

I think it's critical that Bush have a physical and a comprehensive evaluation BEFORE November 2. There have been allegations ranging from drug use, to bell's palsy, to stroke, to psychiatric disturbances, and all of these seem to be supported by Bush's actions and appearance.

It is ironic that Bush was grounded by the Air National Guard for skipping a physical. We should make the meme "ground Bush until he has his physical".

Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml

Bush Taking Anti-Depressants to Control Mood Swings
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml

THE MADNESS OF GEORGE W. BUSH: A REFLECTION OF OUR COLLECTIVE PSYCHOSIS
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/georgews.html

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 04:34 PM
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10. A real petition would be great
Not the internet kind where you can sign Mrs. Butterworth and Mr. Clean.....real honest to goodness signatures of American citizens demanding to know the state of health of their fearless leader.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 04:38 PM
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11. Seriously. If I have to have a physical to go to high school,
* (or any Commander in Chief, for that matter) should have one in order to be leader of the free world.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:02 PM
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12. I wholeheartedly agree!
I've been telling everyone I know that not only does bush look like he was on something at the debates..he won't get a physical until After the election..and that's his life's story, too.
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CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:33 PM
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13. He should have a phsyical and drug test
just like any other American working in the main stream.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:37 PM
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14. earlier tonite i e-mailed
moveon.org to see if they'd do a PSA for tv demanding chimpie get his physical like any other prez contender has to. will sign these petitions too. this is a huge deal that needs a big bright light shone on it.
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