Gore warns of grab by Bush - Bushies call it a 'conspiracy theory'

Gore warns of grab by Bush
By Noelle Straub
Tuesday, October 19, 2004

WASHINGTON -Former Vice President Al Gore, who lost the bitterly contested 2000 election, is warning of a repeat of the recount nightmare in Florida.

"The widespread efforts by (President) Bush's political allies to suppress voting have reached epidemic proportions,'' he charged yesterday. ``Some of the scandals of Florida four years ago are now being repeated in broad daylight even as we meet here today.''

He said the Bush team used an Enron jet to ferry "their rent-a-mob to Florida in 2000 to permanently halt the counting of legally cast ballots.''

In a stinging indictment of his former rival, Gore accused Bush of forbidding dissent, disdaining facts and ignoring his mistakes in a "recklessness that risks the safety and security of the American people.''

"It is love of power for its own sake that is the original sin of this presidency,'' Gore said in a speech at Georgetown University sponsored by the liberal group MoveOn.org.

But Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said, "Al Gore seems intent on shattering whatever minuscule credibility he has left with baseless, mean-spirited personal attacks and conspiracy theories.''


http://news.bostonherald.com/election/view.bg?articleid=49751

...a CONSPIRACY THEORY? Or they simply attack the messenger.

- Gore is not alone in warning America about Republican fraud and cheating. Palast and many others are demonstrating that the Bush* RWingers are cheating RIGHT NOW.

- Preemptive cheating.

it will be yet another of their true conspiracies.

There have been plenty of news articles about their efforts all across the country (and abroad). Here are just a few I've collected:

EVEIDENCE ROOM THREAD: GOP suppressing vote and fraud
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2484893

GOP Theft of Our Election is Underway (state by state recap)
http://www.opednews.com/wade_101504_election_theft.htm
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Jeb Bush Ignored Felon List Advice
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x910224


LBN; Nevada defrauded voters will NOT be allowed to VOTE!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=908197

Labor Unions Sue Fla. Over Voter Forms
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x902607

BBV: Diebold's Business Dealings In King Co., WA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2501611

Absentee ballots fail to arrive; back-up alternative offered
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x909200

Gop trying to move polling places (African American) in Philly
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2506063

BBV - Hamilton Cty OH. Nader on the ballot. KERRY removed.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2507371


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Aaron Brown just said tonight...
(that in Washington state, their newspaper headline said something about voter registration forms being threatened to be thrown out because of "fraud" - a liberal group conducted the GOTV effort and now the County is threatening to throw them out.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2492207


GOP Consulting Firm Investigated for Voter Fraud (Oregon..criminal fraud)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x904760

US unprepared to handle election fraud: Congress
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x905292



Pennsylvania to Fight U.S. Suit on Absentee Votes
(DoJ sues to make PA extend filing deadline for absentee ballots)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x903105

County rejects challenge of 17,000 Democratic voters (Las Vegas)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x901528

Convicted Ex-Congressman Speaks Vs. GOP (Former GOP Rep. Janklow)
(Absentee ballot fraud by Repugs)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=900796#

Voter Registrations Trashed - RNC Funded Firm Destroys Dem Registrations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x900848
CBS affiliate link: http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2421595&nav=168XRvNe
Another thread: GOP Shenanigans in Las Vegas
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x900974

The shits already starting in Colorado....another Florida?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2483066

BBV-More incorrect absentee ballots surface
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2483093


Colorado vote on Electoral College could determine who's president
(read down to Repug front group on AAR, post # 7)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x900072#900370


Voter registration fraud in Colorado..(freepers blame Dems)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x901484



BBV: Computer guys -- question about remote access to voting system
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2480358#2480452

BBV: Is this a problem county? What cities are in Berks County PA?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2488129

BBV: Problem County #2...What towns/cities are in La Paz Co. Arizona?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2491905

BBV: Problem County #3 Manatee County Florida...any DU'ers there?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2491950


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FBI's Anti-Terror 'October Plan' #2 SAVE DEMOCRACY NOW
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2372963

orig. thread:
FBI's Anti-Terror 'October Plan' and what it means for democracy in Nov.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2367673

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Pentagon blocks site for voters outside U.S.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x839817

FBI's Anti-Terror "October Plan" (Vote suppression?)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/17/eveningnews/main644096.shtml

State won't release bulk of voter funds (CA)("not essential" for election)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=836579#836927

Pentagon offers troops a new way to vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=835525#836560


October 2004 issue
Bullies at the Voting Booth
by Anne-Marie Cusac
http://www.progressive.org/oct04/cusac1004.html


More on those BUSHIES AT MY CAMPUS!! (It gets worse)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2381885

They only have 1 campaign topic, Ad Hominem attack on all opposition
persons, not the points themselves. It is completely pathological,
this hateful system of politics where any reasoned argument is
struck down with a personal insult.

baseless, mean-spirited personal attack and conspiracy theory.

And the world's "Iraq invasion has INCREASED terrorism" is just a baseless, mean-spirited personal attack and conspiracy theory.

And Kerry pointing out bush had said he DID NOT CARE about OBL was just a baseless, mean-spirited personal attack and conspiracy theory.

And the experts now pointing out that bush has NO CREDIBILITY when he says all is rosey in Afghanistan, that the TALEBAN are back, that the women are worse off than before are all just part of a baseless, mean-spirited personal attack and conspiracy theory.

That bush sat reading a children's book while 3000 people died, and then stood for a 7 minute photo-op, and then went into hiding like a frightened mouse for 3 days is just a baseless, mean-spirited personal attack and conspiracy theory.

...but not be able to take office (like Gore) because of a disputed election once again decided by the courts.

- The Bushies KNOW they can't win without cheating.

We'll roll over and play dead like we did four years ago.

Even tho most folks are cognizant of the possibility, they don't seem to think they need to be prepared to fight. This election, unless there is a landslide, will be won on the streets and in the courts. If we Dems roll over and play dead, they win and democracy loses.

I think he would have been the odd-on favorite this go round.

...they didn't like his 'populist' message'.

Too frightened to take on the "bosses".

If he's to scared of the "party bosses", then why did he take them on with his "populist message" in the first place?

...because the justice system (under Ashcroft and Scalia) are quite willing to circumvent the Constitution if it means their side staying in power.

- And it's more than a 'possibility'. The cheating and fraud was rampant in 2000 and not ONE of the guilty parties ever suffered any consequences. In fact...Harris was 'rewarded' by getting a seat in congress.

- I don't have to tell YOU that there is more at stake than just which side wins the White House. Our very system of free and fair elections is at stake. Thus...democracy itself is at stake.

There is a lot we can do. But it will be a matter of taking it to the streets. We must be prepared to hit the streets.

Remember the Dade county mob which closed the offices where the votes were to be recounted? If it happens again, we need to be there in an overwhelming force. Will we? I have my doubts.

There were some folks at the Supreme court in DC before that court made the mistake of the century... this time I would hope that Dems far out number the pukes... but I have my doubts.

Personally, I think Kerry will win in a landslide and after all the shenanigans, become one of the greatest Presidents ever. But I have my doubts. No doubt that he will be the greatest, just that he be given a fair chance.

- This may have been possible in 2000...but not in 2004. Why? Because we're just this side of martial law and the Bushies wouldn't 'tolerate' this level of protest during a 'time of war'.

- Look at how they're treating non-violent protesters right now. You could count on martial law being established if people took a disputed election to the streets.

- Sorry to sound so negative...but Americans (and the Democratic party) had their chance in 2000 to stand up for democracy. Now...protesters are considered a threat to security and are treated like terrorists.

You'll wait until some other Dem does it for you

We know what lengths they'll go to this time around to retain office. Pluse Holy Joe isn't at the top of the ticket encouraging a concession.

I believe Kerry will win -- and not only the popular vote -- because I believe the polls are completely skewed.

I believe Kerry will gain the White House in January. However, I am also convinced that those who put * in office and have kept him there despite all the maleficence will do everything in their power to disrupt this change in leadership BEFORE it happens and AFTER it happens. They are not going to give up and slink quietly back into their holes. They will fight and they will fight dirty and they may very well fight with fire.

Ultimately the real question is what factions control the actions of the Secret Service? We see very clearly where they were on 9/11 while "America was under attack".

...making way for fraud on a large scale. The problem remains: hundreds of thousands of ballots are never counted or 'rejected' for various reasons. This can quickly turn a 'landslide' into a 'tie'...making any election easy to steal.

"conspiracy theory"...

Oh that's right. That's what they said about the suggestion that the Iraq invasion had something to do with oil.

There is just conspiracy practice. And we aren't the one practicing it.

...they can prevent any serious discussion of the issues. Right after 9-11...Bush* told America to ignore the conspiracy theories that conflicted with the official story. Now...his teams of talking heads want YOU to ignore any discussion of election fraud four years after the supreme court ignored the popular vote and installed him as 'president' against the will of the people.

when Bush called anti-war protesters "revisionist historians."

ah, projection.

...confirmed as FACT!

Published on Monday, October 18, 2004 by the Guardian/UK

Any Means Necessary
In the 60s, Police Dogs and Billy Clubs Kept Black Americans from the Polls. Today's Methods are More Refined

by Gary Younge


There is nothing George Bush likes more than extolling the virtues of democracy in faraway places. On October 8, during the second presidential debate, he promised: "Freedom is on the march. Tomorrow, Afghanistan will be voting for a president." Apparently some Afghans enjoyed their new freedoms so much, they voted for the US surrogate, Hamid Karzai, several times over, after the ink used to mark voters' thumbs wore off. By the middle of the day, all 15 of Karzai's challengers had withdrawn. Freedom was not even limping let alone marching.

"Today's election is not a legitimate election," said Abdul Satar Sirat, after he and the other disgruntled candidates had met in his house. Bush's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, knew better. "This election is going to be judged legitimate," she said. "I'm just certain of it." When it comes to fixing elections, the Bush administration has a way of making the lame walk.

By Monday an exit poll funded by the US government and conducted by the International Republican Institute, which has links to the Republican party, revealed Karzai as a comfortable winner. After diplomatic arm-twisting by the US ambassador, the 15 challengers withdrew their withdrawals. It was a miracle. A few days later, in the final presidential debate, Bush would literally claim divine intervention. "In Afghanistan, I believe that the freedom there is a gift from the Almighty."

Back in the US, however, the Almighty seems far less generous. Bush's enthusiasm to export democracy is not matched by his desire to defend it at home. With just a fortnight to go to the presidential election, efforts to obstruct and deny the vote, particularly to black and Latino voters, are intensifying. Forty years after the civil rights act enshrined the franchise in the constitution for African-Americans, freedom is being crippled.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1018-24.htm