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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:46 PM
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Hey Dick, Lynn, Liz and Mary lookie here at what Buchann has to say
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 09:46 PM by MSgt213
were's your outrage? Oh an media you can weigh in fucking time now.

To some of us, homosexuality is an affliction, like alcoholism, and hellishly difficult to control. Why some folks can take or leave alcohol -- while others can enjoy it in moderation, and others cannot stop drinking without help and must swear off it for life or it will kill them -- remains a mystery of nature.

Homosexuality seems to be like that. Sumner Welles, one of FDR's most trusted confidantes, saw his career destroyed after he propositioned a porter on a train. LBJ's closest White House aide killed his career during the 1964 campaign when caught in a sting operation in a YMCA men's room, a block from the White House.

A contemporary of this writer and rising conservative star in the House, with a wonderful family, lost it all when caught trolling D.C.'s tenderloin district for teenage boys. Catholic priests have dishonored the church to which they have dedicated entire lives and disgraced themselves by abusing altar boys.

In such cases, the behavior seems almost suicidal. Clearly, there is a compulsion here that is, at times, terribly difficult to resist, a sexual compulsion that seems far more rare among normal men.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/pb20041019.shtml

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Doodlesweaver Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:48 PM
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1. 9/11 CIA report being held until after election. Please sign petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/Tru911ci/petition.html

I would have started my own thread but haven't got enough posts yet! Please spread the word! Contact the media, send it out in emails, post it on other forums. We only have a few days before the election to get it out.

LA Times: Bush Administration Suppresses CIA Report Until AFTER the Election!
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-...l=la-util-...

October 19, 2004

Robert Scheer: The 9/11 Secret in the CIA's Back Pocket The agency is withholding a damning report that points at senior officials.

It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a CIA report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."

When I asked about the report, Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), ranking Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, said she and committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) sent a letter 14 days ago asking for it to be delivered. "We believe that the CIA has been told not to distribute the report," she said. "We are very concerned."

According to the intelligence official, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, release of the report, which represents an exhaustive 17-month investigation by an 11-member team within the agency, has been "stalled." First by acting CIA Director John McLaughlin and now by Porter J. Goss, the former Republican House member (and chairman of the Intelligence Committee) who recently was appointed CIA chief by President Bush.

The official stressed that the report was more blunt and more specific than the earlier bipartisan reports produced by the Bush-appointed Sept. 11 commission and Congress.

"What all the other reports on 9/11 did not do is point the finger at individuals, and give the how and what of their responsibility. This report does that," said the intelligence official. "The report found very senior-level officials responsible."

By law, the only legitimate reason the CIA director has for holding back such a report is national security. Yet neither Goss nor McLaughlin has invoked national security as an explanation for not delivering the report to Congress.

"It surely does not involve issues of national security," said the intelligence official.

"The agency directorate is basically sitting on the report until after the election," the official continued. "No previous director of CIA has ever tried to stop the inspector general from releasing a report to the Congress, in this case a report requested by Congress."

None of this should surprise us given the Bush administration's great determination since 9/11 to resist any serious investigation into how the security of this nation was so easily breached. In Bush's much ballyhooed war on terror, ignorance has been bliss.

The president fought against the creation of the Sept. 11 commission, for example, agreeing only after enormous political pressure was applied by a grass-roots movement led by the families of those slain.

And then Bush refused to testify to the commission under oath, or on the record. Instead he deigned only to chat with the commission members, with Vice President Dick Cheney present, in a White House meeting in which commission members were not allowed to take notes. All in all, strange behavior for a man who seeks reelection to the top office in the land based on his handling of the so-called war on terror.

In September, the New York Times reported that several family members met with Goss privately to demand the release of the CIA inspector general's report. "Three thousand people were killed on 9/11, and no one has been held accountable," 9/11 widow Kristen Breitweiser told the paper.

The failure to furnish the report to Congress, said Harman, "fuels the perception that no one is being held accountable. It is unacceptable that we don't have ; it not only disrespects Congress but it disrespects the American people."

The stonewalling by the Bush administration and the failure of Congress to gain release of the report have, said the intelligence source, "led the management of the CIA to believe it can engage in a cover-up with impunity. Unless the public demands an accounting, the administration and CIA's leadership will have won and the nation will have lost."
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:51 PM
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2. How appalling!
Equating homosexuality with the abuse of children! This retired social worker is very offended! In all of my cases involving sexual abuse, each and every offender (at least that I can recall) identified themselves as heterosexual.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:58 PM
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3. Dick and Lynne wanted to control the issue...well, not so
"In the pressroom, there was an audible groan. For this was jolting, and over the line. Though Cheney had brought up the matter himself of having a "gay" daughter, in an earlier controlled setting (-- to get it out in a careful way so that it would not become an issue -- this fact was still not known to most Americans.")


Looks like they didn't get to do that, now did they?

But by golly, it's now known by most Americans what hypocrits mom and pop are.

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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:04 PM
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4. They don't care
They never will. They're not concerned with treating gay people like human beings. They're just concerned about getting Bush elected. Oh and money, but that's obvious isn't it?
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