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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 07:08 PM
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Do you think BIG Democrats ever troll our pages for ideas?
I just wonder if were a bunch of enthusiastic people "Mentalbating" or if some elite decision makers in the party occasionally take a gander for brainstorming inspiration and ideas?

What do ya' think? Have we ever been secretly graced by the presence of a celebrity?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 07:10 PM
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1. It's been said that Elizabeth Edwards visits
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 07:10 PM by Stevie D
I suspect there are more. ;)

edited typo
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:17 PM
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14. And now the freepers will really try to sabotage it here...
They will more often try to impersonate dems.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 07:12 PM
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2. You better believe they do.
Howard Dean for one besides the Edwards. Also, many talking points that have been brought up publicly by elected officials started here on DU as a discusssion before they were ever mentioned on the media mainstream.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 07:14 PM
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3. They should
If they aren't, they're missing the boat.

DU is a think-tank, free for the taking.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 07:32 PM
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4. Profs too, i bet
i have seen some posts so knowledgeable, that i figure the "handle" hides some retired prof.

Could also easily be some officials secretly browsing around, too. Almost surely, their staffers must browse here and form a sort of pipe to the officials next day at the office in DC or whereever.

Right, this is a think tank extraordinaire. A huge one, maybe the most fertile one on the planet.

50 000, some fm england, one from stockholm {so says his handle}. A great new thing, now that i think about it. With great ideas zipping around so fast now, you would think the world would make faster progress. I sadly note that racism in US is still electing the republicans, tho.

To reduce the racist vote,
one: guarantee TOTAL employment. fear of ethnics competing for scarce jobs, is fuel for racism.

http://www.njfac.org

two: guarantee house value. blockbusting dramatically destroys house value, and increases race hatred, increasing republican votes.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:18 PM
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5. Three
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 08:19 PM by BeFree
All those who are discriminated against had best vote. And vote for the Dems.

DU is somewhat new. The idea is old but the mechanics are new. I dare say DU is the leading edge of the New Media. Done right, it's even a library of sorts with knowledge about a whole lot of things right at our fingertips. Not only that but it is decentralized, it never closes and you don't have to be quiet in here!
===========

What is blockbusting? Never heard of it....
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:34 PM
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10. blockbusting:
Getting a black family into a white neigborhood (or getting the neighborhood to BELIEVE that a black family is moving in) then scaring the other white families into selling at bargain prices by making them think that no one else will buy in a "mixed" neighborhood. It's a cynical, horrible practice and only works where people can be convinced that it WILL.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:45 PM
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22. yes, I do have to say
that my sympathy for these people is not impressive.

they almost deserve their "misfortune" if this is what is going on in their heads.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:18 PM
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6. any progressive democratic politician
would be a fool for not utilizing this "think tank".

i am continually being amazed by the research done by those du denizens who know how to do so. du, bev and bbv got electonic voting into the mainstream. now almost EVERYONE thinks that electronic voting is questionable.

another, the plame threads.

the various timelines.

the depth to which the research goes is mindboggling.

:toast: to the "du think tank"!
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:22 PM
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7. God I hope so. n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:24 PM
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8. I'm Bill Clinton and I approve this message
j/k, hell yeah they do...
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:30 PM
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9. they'd be nutz not to............
This place is a remarkable resource. There's reasoned discourse, investigative journalism, philosophical meaderings, lots of yuks. And you know the bad guys are checking in too (they must be jealous as hell that the really smart people are all on the other side).
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:51 PM
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11. Al Gore for sure!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:58 PM
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12. Mrs. Edwards said so today..on tv..(c-span townhall meeting)
Anyone who would ignore such a cross section of the world, would be silly..

Intelligent discourse, relatively focused, and well-researched is hard to find these days..

Most stuff on tv is "rockem-sockem robots" and screaming heads.. Why would they gain any real knowledge from those places??

The web is where it's at..:)


and where, but at DU would you see threads of people "talking" nback in forth in Japanese, German, Norwegian, Italian one minute and yet still participating in flawless English ??

Not at FR, that's for sure:)
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:10 PM
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13. i would hope so
terry Mcaulliffe(sp?) would be an idiot not to check this out or have staffers check this place out.



If you are here, Please listen to us!!!! we really do have great ideas!!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:33 PM
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16. Some of my stuff has ended up on the Kerry website
:)I didn't put it there :)
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:29 PM
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18. awsome
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vxd_vcache Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:38 PM
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20. They may not be regulars ,but
I'm sure that at least some of them have been here to take a look. If that is the case it would have been next to impossible for them not to like what they had seen. Which also leads me to believe they'll be back you can count on it. You might be surprised to learn just who has been here.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:23 PM
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15. Chris Heinz for sure, documented. Many other too I imagone
I know radio peeps like Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes and of course Guy James as well.

Probably some top rebukes have someone monitor too.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:33 PM
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19. Wesley Clark's son has been here, I believe.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:04 PM
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26. Yeah. He said that he'd read a lot of my posts...
...when he posted that he didn't like that I wasn't impressed that he was telling the press that he wanted a VP selection with foreign policy experience. (I suggested that people who didn't grow up rich might not be so happy if nobody on the ticket suggests that John Kerry is thinking about class and economic issues.)

I guess if he felt the need to voice his disagreement that my posts were having some kind of impact...
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Lost Creek Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:54 PM
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17. YES
Congressman Udall’s staff believes in the power this and other sites. I was very happy with the things he told me when I met him last month.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:42 AM
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33. Is this still the Udall
who once said, "If nominated for president, I will decline and if drafted I will move to Mexico." He was a great senator.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:41 PM
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21. I've been quoted by Joseph Biden AND John Kerry.
But, they didn't give me credit! Oh well, I forgive them both.

:D
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:47 PM
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23. I don't really have any links, or any documentation
so I can't prove it, but I do know that I have had more than a few experiences where I see something or hear something on tv and I think "man, someone said that on DU last night", I sense that I just KNOW it came from here and since I am a late night/early morning postor, sometimes I just feel like they are mining this board.

And truthfully, if they have any damn sense in their heads, they should all be paying someone to read this board everyday.
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:22 AM
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31. Same here!
I read it on DU & a couple days later, there it is in a speech or an ad! :)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:56 PM
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24. I swear Maher must read us
Which is cool. Steal anything ya want!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:01 PM
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25. "Hope, not fear" was a post of mine here at DU which MWO reprinted on...
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 11:46 PM by AP
...their site and got some attention. That was almost two years ago. It's now the theme of Kerry's last week of his campaign.

In discussing the republican tax code I said that the middle class is the engine of the US economy, that that engine was the only thing that was going to pull the economy out of the doldrums, and the Republicans, by taxing the hell out of the middle class, want to make it incredibly hard for that engine to do its job. John Edwards used that analogy in one of his debates.

Not to blow my own horn, but I do think that ideas that start here grow, or at least reaffirm ideas that are getting batted around other places.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:18 PM
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27. well, you are one hell of a poster, AP!
there was something I read of yours while lurking last week that blew my mind. i wish i could remember it.

you were the main source for good Edwards information here during the primaries, that is for sure!

:hi:
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:37 PM
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28. Odd we are talking about this I told my husband about 4 months
ago, that I knew the DNC and Kerry campaign had the CD I put out a year ago but I was hearing things on the trail that had been posted on DU. Coincidence? Don't think so anymore. There was one line I used about a month a go that was used in the last debate. Word for Word..LOL
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:34 AM
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32. When you throw a lot of stuff up against the wall...
...something is going to stick.

:)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:45 PM
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29. quite awhile ago... I mentioned an idea...
that I had been watching bush stump speeches quite closely in early 2002, and very often he would say something to the audience promising to continue supporting x program or y... and that a few weeks later, in the news would be a budget cut about that specific program. Specifically I recall a jobs training program in Oregan... a speech to veterans in one of the Carolinas (and within a couple of weeks it was reported that the new policy of the VA was not to tell people of benefits/programs and to only give information when it was specifically corrected... among other ways of cutting costs/programs.)

I suggested that folks keep a grid - monitoring the stump speeches for local promises, and then document actual administration actions that denied/broke those promises. At the time I had more examples on my finger tips and gave more details of how it could be accomplished.

Within a week or so of the post... the DCCC had an item (that they kept up for awhile) that recorded exactly such inconsistencies - starting with his stump promises. It is possible that this was coincidence, but the timing and content suggested (at the time) that it came from someone's perusal of DU...
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:06 AM
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30. idea people, the invisble ghosts
I see DU rubbing off all over the place, but i think primarily, it
is speechwriters and campaign-meme people who use it as a sounding
board... as it is so appearant when a theme is popular in a
thread, and then the theme is elevated to mainstream.

As well, i think many folks on DU are "sensitives" who pick up
psychically the vibes of the country and get them in to words that
are instantly picked up by any who find them useful. DU is the
hot core of a living thinktank.

I don't care if famous dems read it... what is that? Name
recognition. I presume that everyone is famous. Everyone is
an individual and we are all equal. I could care less whether you
are brittany spears, al gore, wilt chamberlain or donna summers.

Welcome to the sacred temple of democracy where we set down our
ego identities for a direct chat mind to mind.
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