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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:11 PM
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Frustrated outburst on the bus
Riding the bus this morning, a woman burst out and said something like, "How can we let this happen? Four more years of poverty and war. It's not fair!"

She was greeted with silence. Her frustration and grief were palpable. She got off immediately afterward, and since it was my stop, I walked up to her and said, "I hear you, sister."

She vented the usual anguish we hear around DU, and she said, "I work with all these Republicans and bible-thumpers, and I don't know if I'll be able to deal with their smugness."

I tried to console her: "Take the long view. Demographics are in our favor; the South will eventually be split with heterogeneity. It was a good election to lose, given how badly things will degenerate in the next couple of years."

We introduced ourselves and shook hands. She seemed a little comforted. What strange times.

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:13 PM
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1. Thank you for reaching out to a stranger in pain. You
are a good and wise person.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:20 PM
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3. Thank you for the kind words.
We have to pull together to build up the critical mass for 2008.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:20 PM
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2. I agree with you
but how pathetic that in the greatest country in the world, our only hope is in the inevitable degeneration of our nation for people to have their eyes opened.



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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:24 PM
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4. Where do you live
that people wouldn't all agree with her?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:28 PM
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6. I'm in Seattle, so a lot folks on the bus probably agreed
The mood was quite somber.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:54 PM
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18. a friend in Seattle remarked that things were subdued ...
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 05:56 PM by Lisa
Even in the summer, there wasn't as much political talk as she'd seen in earlier years, in her neighborhood. Her take was that people were going out of their way to avoid getting into arguments, because they sensed how volatile things could become. Natural for this to carry over into the post-election period.

My guess is that riding public transit in Seattle would be Bush's idea of a very bad day! If anybody within earshot was a rabid GOP supporter, s/he would likely not have been able to resist a gloating comment ... so your assessment is likely right on.

Good on you for reaching out to someone in need, Barrett 808.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:30 PM
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10. That is a good question
Why would people who rely on public transportation to get around have a soft spot for bush? Maybe they feel like I do and they are dumbfounded, speechless. I don't know what I would have said in that moment neither. I think I would have just sat there too, wanting to say something, but not knowing what.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:48 PM
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11. Yes, I think there was a lot of dumbfounded speechlessness this morning
on the bus.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:26 PM
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5. Oh, Barrett
How marvelously kind of you. God love ya.

:loveya:
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:29 PM
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8. Thanks -- I'm a sucker for suffering
Gotta stay together to weather the next four years.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:28 PM
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7. What does this mean . . .
"the South will eventually be split with heterogeneity"

I think the South has been kind of a troll thoughout this election, lurking, making "nice" now and then, but then going for the jugular in the end, because they hate government and want to see it damaged by bad leadership.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:30 PM
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9. I read a post last night about immigration from Latin America and the N.
Which will water down the good-ol'-boy vote. Hey, it sounded good at the time.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:49 PM
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12. *hugs*
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FIGHT for election reform at the municipal and state level!
Clean up the American government from the ground up!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:52 PM
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13. My sister had the opposite occurance on the train this a.m.
She told me it was all she could do not to choke the ever lovin' shit out of some smug, gloating b*tch this morning on the train. Stupid woman doesn't even realize her vote went for nothing in this blue state.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:14 PM
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14. I guess, given the choice, I'd prefer my experience on the bus. n/t
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:22 PM
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15. IM MAD AS HELL AND IM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!
I literally haven't left my pad yet. Don't want to see anybody.

Thats a great story.

Is it wrong for me to want * to screw this country up so bad...that we don't recover for a generation? Is that a bad thing?

That he makes abortion illegal. That he invades Iran and Syria. That he re-enacts the draft. That he bankrupts the treasury (even more). That he drops a nuke in the mid-east. That the world gets so pissed off...they impose sanctions on us.

Like one of those hardcore Catholics that just smack themselves with whips...because they feel that they are SO sinful.

Is the above wrong?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:47 PM
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17. The revolutionaries in Russia used to say, "The worse, the better."
I don't really want to take that as my slogan, but it has a real seductiveness about it.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:27 PM
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16. My wife works with fundies too.
She took a half day off this afternoon. Said they were all going out on a victory lunch. She said today was the worst day of her life. We've been trying to find her a new job, but she's a IT person and those jobs are hard to come by these days.
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Macadian Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:59 PM
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19. Glad you reached out to her....
... now find a moderate that voted for Bush and reach out to them.

That is the only way this is situation is going to change.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:03 PM
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20. Thank you . . .
. . . for comforting her, especially when others chose to be silent.

We all need to look for opportunites to reach out to like-minded people. And continue to attempt to reason with those who are not.

:grouphug:

(I've been using the group hug icon A LOT today!)
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:07 PM
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21. You have avery good heart.
Something that sonofabitch prezeldent is missing. I hope everyone will continue to reach out to those in pain.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:21 PM
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22. Her pain is my pain
And probably that of the majority of folks on the bus.

There were a couple of conservative ladies chatting happily before this occurred -- I had a bit of a run-in with them a few months ago...some of you may recall my post about that incident.
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Pied Piper Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:16 PM
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23. I live in Boston...
... and of course, we are devasted by yesterday's election. After work, I went to the CVS drug store and I bumped into one of my colleagues, with whom I had commiserated earlier today. So we are standing in this long line and she says to me, "Would you give up the Red Sox and the World Series if it meant that Kerry won?" (You know that is a loaded question!) I replied, "Hell yes!" At which point EVERYONE in front of us turned around and nodded approvingly.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:35 PM
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25. Ah, a sense of perspective in Boston
Went to school there, definitely a good place to live.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:18 PM
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24. She needed your words of comfort
:hug:
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:38 PM
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26. Hope I see her on the bus tomorrow n/t
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