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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:59 PM
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Ignorant bigots may have one this battle, but we win in life
Theirs is a small, petty victory. A victory of ignorance against enlightenment...of superstition and against education. Theirs is a victory of make-believe.

But in the real world, the educated and intelligent will always be better off. Employers will always hire us over the fundie conservative, and our business and life decisions will always be based on reason and logic instead of fear and the imaginary voice of god.

The further they decline into their land of make-believe, the more opportunities open up for us. Our power may not be in numbers, but it will increasingly be in influence and power.

Just trying to say something positive.

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freedom_to_read Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:02 PM
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1. i disagree with only this statement:
"Our power may not be in numbers, but it will increasingly be in influence and power."

Our power is in the numbers. Don't let this false "mandate" bs fool you. We just need to get better at activating our base.

They control the INFLUENCE and POWER in this country. They control the media. That's what we're up against.

But we need to stay positive, and strong.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:06 PM
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2. Are you kidding?
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 01:07 PM by kgfnally
I'm going back into the closet, I think. After trying- desperately- to get respect and dignity from my fellow man for over a decade, I'm starting to think most people really don't want me alive OR to be who I am.

I'm so totally torn up. Since WHEN does being right or doing the right thing get me squat, now OR later? It doesn't. It never, ever has. People look at me funny when I do something good for someone else without getting anything in return. People tell me I'm wasting my time.

I had some hope last night when I remembered that the Pubs own the problems now, that they HAVE to throw a bone to their religious base "or lose them".... but that's not going to be the case. I'm a hated man now, just because I'm easy to hate.

I guess everyone I grew up around was right: I really *am* a pathetic faggot ass limp-wristed child-fucking homo pervert. I don't have any choice but to accept that label now.

I truly, truly wish I had never been born. People like me really ARE the scum of the earth...... I guess.....

Sorry, but I don't have any hope left. Everything I've ever hoped for (yes, also before this election, before *, even, before I became an adult and so briefly had dreams for my future).... it's all ashes now.

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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:08 PM
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3. Look, you are smart
You have to find ways to use that to your advantage. The other side doesn't have that option.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:13 PM
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5. WTF? What "ways"?
I've been punished for "being different" in one way or another MY WHOLE LIFE. It's JUST like when I was a kid... I can say to 8myself* I have worth and value, but if nobody at all who is around me really feels that way as well, I won't get anywhere. Don't try to convince me otherwise; I already know from my own experiences that that's how it works.

You CAN'T do anything you want with your life if the people around you don't want you to have it. I swallowed that lie for a LOT of years, and the lie about parents always standing behind their kids, and the lie that you'll get ahead and succeed if you "follow the rules".

None of that is true.

If I had it to do over again, I would never. Ever. Trust.

PERIOD.

"Do unto others" is only going to get people like me kicked in the teeth. It's ONLY going to get us hurt. Or killed.

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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:45 PM
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6. Maybe I'm giving you too much credit
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DeadHead67 Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:56 PM
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7. From the Ashes, THE PHOENIX RISES !!!! . . . . .
I don't have time right now (gotta pick up Mom in 20 minutes)but Email me if you want to exchange some thoughts.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:10 PM
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4. We have control over our lives and accept responsibility for our actions
They think God has control over every single thing that happens in their lives and that they are completely powerless about everything that happens to them.

As if God would care about people who break every single of his laws. Lying, cheating, stealing, hating, war-mongering, neglecting to take care of the poor and needy...that is what the typical Bush supporter is all about.

Poor people. I guess it is best for simple minds not to be concerned with critical thinking and all that real stuff. Their heads might explode if they try to think for themselves.


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