Taxation without Representation: Blue States pay 90% of the tax burden

We pay for the war in Iraq, which most of us didn't want. We pay for farm subsidies in the red states. We pay to line the pockets of Bush's big business buddies and war profiteers. Our representative bodies (Senate, House, Presidency) are dominated by folks from the states that divert our tax dollars into 'faith-based' initiatives that discrimate against gays, minorities, and women. Our values of tolerance, fiscal responsibility, accountability, and education are roundly rejected and ridiculed.

Why should we continue to fund bigotry, hatred, and religious insanity? Why should my state suffer?

I was with some friends this afternoon, and have been talking on the phone to depressed friends and family in Blue States. I think it's time for another Boston Tea Party.

who cannot leave because of some life circumstance. I don't want them to suffer for something they aren't responsible for either!

I wish we could have a cities vs. rural tax pullout, but that doesn't solve it, either, and our cities would all have to be fortresses against the Great Red Plague.

I wish my tax money went to the destitute in the red states rather than big agribusiness and pork projects.

But you understand that 'taxation without representation' is truly tyranny in this case? Especially when red states shit all over us and call us evil? Fuck 'em all!

but does your name come from Kids in the Hall:Brain Candy?

We have to.

Tea in Lake Superior and Lake Michigan! Tea in San Francisco Bay!

Taxation without representation is tyranny. It was then and it is now.

I'm pretty sure I can push a story out of this.

there was a study that showed giver vs. taker states also. I'll google and see what I can find.

i never thought about that. do you know of any articles or anything about it online?

Will the Chimp Dicktator catch the meaning?

Us Blue States carry the tax burden, we are the economic centers of America, we are the terrorist targets, we live with gays in our cities every day, abortion happens in the highest percantages here, and THIER candidate is elected. The Tea should be in the Harbor.

teenage pregnancy rates. Abortion rates are overall much lower in the blue states because of availability of BIRTH CONTROL!!

Except I'm in a red state - Arizona. I'd move, but that would mean fewer blue voters. We will turn blue one of these days... I hope. If not, New Mexico is nice.

On edit: I'd suffer threw anything to put these Bush bastards in their place. So, Tea Party on!

if the link doesn't work, i'm new at posting

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Food for thought...

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History of War Tax Resistance

Refusing to pay taxes for war is probably as old as the first taxes levied for warfare.

Up until World War II, war tax resistance in the U.S. primarily manifested itself among members of the historic peace churches — Quakers, Mennonites, and Brethren — and usually only during times of war. There has been instances of people refusing to pay taxes for war in virtually every American war, but it was not until World War II and the establishment of a permanent, centralized U.S. military (symbolized by the building of the Pentagon) was the modern war tax resistance movement born.

Colonial America
One of the earliest known instances of war tax refusal took place in 1637 when the relatively peaceable Algonquin Indians opposed taxation by the Dutch to help improve a local Dutch fort. Shortly after the Quakers arrived in America (1656) there were a number of individual instances of war tax resistance. In 1709 the Quaker Assembly refused a request of £4000 for an expedition into Canada, replying “it was contrary to their religious principles to hire men to kill one another.”

American Revolution
Most Quakers were opposed to taxes designated specifically for military purposes. Though the official position of the Society of Friends was against any payment of war taxes. Property was seized and auctioned, and many Quakers were jailed for their war tax resistance. A number of Quakers even refused the “mixed taxes.” Up to 500 Quakers were disowned for paying war taxes or joining the army.

Following the war many Quakers continued to refuse because these taxes were being used to pay the war debt, and therefore were essentially war taxes.

Mexican War
The Quakers reacted strongly to this war because of its aggressive nature and the threatened spread of slavery posed by the war. Many, again, refused to pay war taxes. However, the most famous instance of war tax resistance was that of Henry David Thoreau. Although not a pacifist he was opposed to slavery, and the imperialist and unjust nature of the war. His refusal to pay the Massachusetts poll tax levied for the war resulted in a night in jail. This whole experience was recorded in his essay, “On the Duty of Civil Disobedience,” which has had a profound influence on many people since.

http://www.warresisters.org/history_wtr.htm

I just find it impossible to pay taxes to this country as long as the junta is using our $$ to blow up children and other innocent people.

My tax dollars are currently being used for state-sponsored terrorism. I have a real problem with that.

new mexico (red) 1.99 for every dollar in taxes
new jersey (blue) .57

:D

it's very very very slightly purple.

and please, it's like one of the poorest states in the union.

don't get me wrong, i'm ALL FOR the tea party. but i do think that we have to be really really clear on our aim here: for instance. a lot of ohio is red, while cleveland is deeeeep blue. a lot of NM is red, while taos, and santa fe, and a few other choice spots are still deep blue! we can't just abandon those people either...

damn. this is a tough nut to crack.

especially after the wine... hehehe *hiccup* (my apologies)

And I could get behind this. Hell, if we can get rid of the system that funnels farm subsidy money into huge agribusiness here, we might even get back to the point where the little guy can make a living farming again.

And I live in the beautiful blue oasis of the Iowa City area, where state revenue provides a big chunk of the local economy through UI. I think we'd get by. :-)

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Red states can't stand us, but they don't mind taking Blue state money. Wish there was some way to really implement this. Any ideas?

are asking for trouble.

to consider. Some sort of protest seems in order. They rely on us far more than we do on them. Might wake them up. An act of civil disobedience? I don't know, our economies equal dozens of their states.

the red states would be fucked. I think some kind of protest is in order. It's late, I'm going to bed, and hopefully another DUer will think of something creative!

There was another DU thread on the same topic here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1313441

It was discussed in-depth on the Daily Kos website here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/3/151749/966

Fuck them!!!!!!!!!