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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:08 PM
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Norquist asserts that Dems will be content once castrated
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:09 PM by eleny
He's on Moyers and Moyers quoted Norquist where Norquist said recently that Dems will be content to be around Republicans after a while. That we will be calm like barnyard animals who were nasty but then got castrated and then stopped peeing on the furniture and such.

This only makes me want to work harder and be nastier. I'll never stop peeing on their damned furniture!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:10 PM
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1. He Needs To Be Outed (nt)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:38 PM
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19. As a fascist? We already know.
Perhaps you meant something else.

I'm in a nasty mood. Out all of them. Perhaps a nude spread. The rules of polite behavior are out the window. Every one who follows Bush accepts cheating and lying as a norm.

Let's destroy with the truth.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:50 PM
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27. He's the one that eats tuna fish from the can with his hands
and sniffs hand lotion, all while sitting on an exercise ball.

A psychologist could go to town, based on that little description.

Tuna! Sexually repressed! Sniffing hand lotion! Over-bearing mother figure! Exercise ball! (Hell if I know).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:10 PM
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2. Fuck grover...he wants to drain our
our Social Security down the bathtub.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:11 PM
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3. What an evil bastard!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:15 PM
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7. EVIL GOP BASTARDS go to hell
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:13 PM
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4. Well, he should know. Is he content? nt
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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:15 PM
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5. Grover Norquist and castration in the same sentence............
Just hand me a knife.

:mad:
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:26 PM
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14. Make sure it's been dipped in lemon juice first
;-)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:39 PM
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20. Make sure it's a grapefruit knife.
Nothing like a dull serrated edge.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:15 PM
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6. I think it's more like battered wife who sets her husband's bed on fire
while he's sleeping.

and seriously, these repukes better sleep in shifts, we're watching while they slip out the door to their lover or mistress, and they'll be all over the internet, one after the other.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:20 PM
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8. I assisted a vet during 2 colt castrations (geldings)
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:23 PM by CottonBear
A serious operation. This is awful, evil language from GOP. Scary beyond belief.

on edit: Barnyard animals are God's creatures not nasty, evil animals. Fuck Grover.
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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:20 PM
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9. Didn't you realize, they are all like that. Think Ann Coulter.
Their plan is to be relentless in their attacks and not allow us to come up for air. My belief is we should fight fire with fire and be just as relentless in attacking them and calling them out and exposing their corruption to even their own followers who remain largely in the dark thanks to FOX News and shows like Rush Limbaugh. We also need to keep pressing for enforcement of laws when they break them no matter how high up the ladder it goes. The spokespeople we put on the air shoul always be well prepared, have facts, and shout as loudly as they do. We need to keep shining the light on their hate speech and chide them publicly when they do it. With statements like "What an evil think to say" or "What a heartless (cowardly, nasty--fill in the blanks) thing to say. I am really disappointed in your lack of civility." We need to keep at them and the media. Our problem has been we just lick our wounds and give up. We don't get angry enough and always try to treat the bastards like they deserve some kind of respect. They want us to "fear them." Well, we should not!! We should poounce on them every time we get a chance. We need learn from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharptong how to debate these idiots and make them lool like the fools they are.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:30 PM
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15. Agree 100%. We're dealing with Nazis here. Nazis win...
...by being thugs. If you roll over, they will continue to be thugs. They rule through intimidation. We either allow them to intimidate us, or we fight back. But they will never be happy until we're laying prostrate in front of them.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:43 PM
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23. We won't get the airtime.
But when we do. Ignore whatever the current attack is. Don't bother to answer. Attack on another issue. Or a similar one but different.

Particularly their morals.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:22 PM
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10. Democrats Have Changed
We're Not going to put up with GOP shit anymore without calling it shit. Does anyone have his email address?
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:35 PM
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18. his email address hell, where exactly does the FUCKER live ????
I want to know. Let the castrations begin. Bring 'em on.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:23 PM
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11. That fucking Muppet from hell!
A Rove wanna be.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:24 PM
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12. He does have to walk around DC without protection
not that I'm advocating anything....
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:25 PM
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13. Is this true? He said this on TV? He said this on public television?
How does one view this without paying for a video?

Atrocious!
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:32 PM
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16. If most people saw Norquist as the face of Republicanism...
the Repubs would have trouble winning a position as city dog catcher. Norquist is as about as slimy and repugnant as Repubs get.

Norquist recently told the WWII generation to essentially f' off and die because of their past support for social welfare programs and progressive taxation.

Preach on, Norquist! The more your fat, lying mouth flaps, the more insane Republicans look to the majority of America.

These idiots sound like they think they've won our govt. with the support of 90% of the people.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:39 PM
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21. Speaking of his face.....
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:59 PM
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30. Though I wasn't being literal about "the face", point taken.
:evilgrin:
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:33 PM
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17. I personally plan to toot on his sofa cushions.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:39 PM
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22. Sociopaths frequently resort to castration imagery. A southern tradition!
There are many actual cases of castration in the south, some more recent than you might think. It is also a staple of the right and southern culture. I want to say it's steeped in tradition, from way back. It is second only to homosexual references in it's prevelence amongst the rightard. I grew up with southern rightards, I know of what I speak.

Their fear and desire of control of other men leads to this. It is a frequent source of lewd and violent jokes, as well as a frequent source of descriptive terms for problems and frustrations.

From the days of slavery and before, castration and the threat of castration has been used by bullies and hateful men to strike fear into others. Women picked up on the use of the imagery on a large scale in the last century.

The use of castration as metaphor is just another manifestation of the neurosis afflicting the right. They hate, and that is the source of their energy. Hate is an amazingly powerful and sustaining force. But, truth is more powerful, which is why they hate truth so.

When you hear someone using castration metaphors in reference to controlling a person or a group of people, you may feel safe in assuming that the speaker is a true sociopath. It's not just a crude way of speaking, it's part of a specific and calculted way of communicating.

This from personal experience.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:06 AM
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32. Ever heard of Heloise and Abelard?

Castration did not originate in the past two centuries, nor did it originate in the American South.

Did you know that in Renaissance Italy, a time of great civility and enlightenment in many ways, men judged to be sodomites were not only castrated but had their noses cut off? And the means of judgement was to extract a confession using the strappado, a device by which people were lifted high in the air and dropped to the stone floor over and over and over again until they had numerous broken bones and told the authorities what they wanted to hear.


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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:47 PM
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24. I like Grover (Norquist, not the muppet)
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:49 PM by booley
say what you will, he doesn't lie nearly as much as your average conservative. he tells you exactly how cons feel. And that is invaluable. But we get less likely to get fooled when the repubs talk about bipartisanship or the good of the country. Thanks to Grover, we know exactly what they really mean, and it ain't what they are saying.

I''ve been using a quote from Grover every time a con tells me that I and the dems need to reach out to the Republicans, need to work with them to get Bush's agenda passed, now that we have lost and all.

"Bipartisanship is another word for DATE RAPE"

Date Rape is how the Cons feel about Bipartisanship. And you can be sure that if there is to be any raping, they plan on NOT being on the receiving end.

If not for Grover, I may not have known that the Kool Aid the repubs keep offering is spiked with roofies.

And I lied, I do Like Grover the Muppet too. But for different reasons..
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:48 PM
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25. His completely vacant stare reveals a soulless evil...
And to watch the usually sedate, contemplative Bill Moyers practically jump out of his chair, asking "you're NOT serious, are you? You can't be serious!" was as big as a shock as anything I've seen lately.

The interview included a film-clip of a single mother in Vegas who was trying to survive with 3 children on $13,000/year. Her oldest daughter, in contemplating her future, said she'd probably end up going into the army, to earn money for college. Asked if she was concerned about Iraq and the probability she would go there if she enlisted, this girl kind of shrugged and said "what else can I do?"


In Grover's world,
the rich become the aristocracy
the middle class means nothing
the poor will serve the ruling class.


How I wish this interview was on LAST WEEK!
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:20 AM
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33. it would've changed NOTHING.. even if it was on every day for the
past year.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:49 PM
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26. Norquist helped fund TERRORISTS.
This is from Frank Gaffney -- the neo-con's neo-con. It spells out the case against Grover the BFEE Turd Norquist:

A Troubling InfluenceBy Frank J Gaffney Jr.

FrontPageMagazine.com | December 9, 2003

EXCERPT...

At a black-tie dinner on November 5th, nearly 300 conservative activists and politicians gathered at Washington’s Mayflower Hotel to recognize a prominent fixture in their community: tax-advocate and conservative coalition-builder Grover Norquist.
 
The talk that evening was of the honoree’s tireless efforts to advance his libertarian objective of down-sizing federal, state and local governments by reducing their revenues.  He was toasted for organizing nationwide initiatives to memorialize Ronald Reagan, notably with the renaming of the capital’s National Airport after the former President. 
 
Most in the audience were surely unaware that the effect of their tribute – if not its organizers’ intended purpose – was to provide urgently needed political cover for a man who has been active on another, far less laudable and, in fact, deeply problematic front: Enabling a political influence operation to advance the causes of radical Islamists, and targeted most particularly at the Bush Administration. The growing influence of this operation – and the larger Islamist enterprise principally funded by Saudia Arabia – has created a strategic vulnerability for the nation, and a political liability for its President.
 
The Islamist Connection: Abdurahman Alamoudi
 
The association between Grover Norquist and Islamists appears to have started about five years ago, in 1998, when he became the founding chairman of an organization called the Islamic Free Market Institute, better known as the Islamic Institute.1  The Institute’s stated purpose was to cultivate Muslim-Americans and Arab-Americans whose attachment to conservative family values and capitalism made them potential allies for the Republican Party in advance of the 2000 presidential election. 
 
If successful, such an outreach effort could theoretically produce a windfall in votes and campaign contributions. Consequently, it enjoyed the early support of Karl Rove, when he was then-Governor Bush’s political advisor, and who knew Norquist from their days in the College Republicans.


CONTINUED...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11209
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:56 PM
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28. Are you Dems going to take this?
guess he thinks you're all a bunch of sheep.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:58 PM
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29. How do these people and I use the term loosely,
the coulters, limbaughs, hannitys, o'reilys, get away with this shit?
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:27 AM
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35. We let them
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choicevoice Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:01 AM
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31. I have been known for doing some crazy things in my life.....
I just had the most hilarious picture in my head of me actually peeing on some Repukes furniture....hmmm
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:23 AM
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34. can you castrate a female?
n/t
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:29 AM
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36. Whatever -- Norquist is going to be out of a fucking job
when he realizes that the GOP doesn't plan on getting rid of "the big federal government" anymore.

IMHO, joke's on the libertarians AND the Christians -- both played for pawns by the GOP.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:17 AM
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37. What IS it with these people.
I really, really despise Norquist, but I clearly don't get it.

Norquist is a very powerful (and therefore I conclude wealthy) person. Yet his whole reason for life is to harm others less fortunate. He gets up everyday and works really, really hard to see that his fellow citizens go without food, clothing, shelter, education and an old-age pension. His whole life is to spread and grow evil.

I guess 'sociopath' is a good description because what he does and who he is is beyond my comprehension.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:21 AM
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38. I found a page on the net with Norquist's quote
Moyers read from this quote where Norquist refers to neutering. I'm going to try and find a better page that may feel more reliable. But if Moyers quoted this to Norquist, I feel comfortable posting this particular url. I had to get away from the tv for a while after seeing that and just got back.

Moyers read it to Norquist and confirmed that Norquist did say it.

http://www.amexp.org/aeqpdf/AEQv6/aeqv6n4/Symposium/AEQv6n4Norquist.txt

"Republicans and conservatives can best advance the cause of civility by working hard to finish off the hopes of the Democrats for any return to power. It is like neutering barnyard animals: they are much calmer, less likely to cause damage, and easier to control. As the vet says, "They will be happier; this is good for them." "

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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:38 AM
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39. kick the crap out of this one.
these mofos are going down hard. I don't know how yet...but I know even now the citizens of this country who still remember the idealism set forth for high school students in civics class are VERY ANGRY that a group like this would dare to call themselves Americans.

Understand? These people are traitors to the real spirit of America.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:48 AM
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40. grover, go kill yourself....
consider it a public service
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