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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:19 AM
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We are all mad. Who will lead us? What actions will we take?
There is a lot of preaching to the choir going on.

80+ Colorado High school Kids have staged a sit in there School Library.

What can We/You/I do ?

We have a unique opportunity? Half of the United States is PISSED.

How do we involve them now before they settle back in to complacency?

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:19 AM
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1. Here is one thing you can do:
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 12:20 AM by GreenPartyVoter
Well, when it is back up again. But the bandwidth overload is a GOOD sign! :) Never happened before until this week.

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FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:24 AM
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2. Do not buy their crap.
Turn off the tv and do not shop.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:26 AM
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4. Shop from the fair trade directories on my site.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:33 AM
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6. I don't watch TV....
Our household income is shrinking so my purchasing power is reduced.
So not buying crap is becoming a necessity not so much a choice. This is something I've also thought of but it takes discipline. There are just to many opportunities to buy things knowone needs. We can all try though.


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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:25 AM
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3. Letters
Never underestimate the power of good letter campaign. If it works for TV shows, why not real politics?

This involves us writing to the Democratic Leadership. We need to let them know how unhappy we are. We need to let them know exactly what we are thinking, and we need to get them to realize that the grassroots level is where they should be focussing their efforts. Lots of people here have good ideas, and if DU's leadership could come up with a list of ten good points to get across, we could start mailing.

I don't mean write one letter. They need to be to the highest ranking Democratic officals. They should be the one's fighting this voter fraud, not us. I am working on writing a good one. I don't know who I'm sending it too, yet. But I'm not sending just one letter to one person. I'm sending a minumum of five copies of the same letter. Maybe that'll get the point across that I'm sick of being ignored.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:38 AM
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We need to post more email links. With all the posting we do here...
It would be a small effort to send our opinions to those that need to hear it.

A letter a day is a personal Goal I would like to achive. Who are you emailing and why?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:27 AM
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5. Don't accept the status quo.
First lesson. It was discovered that the Jewish people who didn't die in the camps at the hands of the Nazis were the ones who fought back.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:38 AM
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8. Your Post Reminded Me of Daschle Hugging Bush Pictures
He hugged the enemy and lost. He stood by the enemy and lost. I have no sympathy for his lost. He and the enemy became one. I only hope new Democrats remember that lesson. Bush is not the friend of Americans.
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ever_green Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:47 AM
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13. Yep...and Kerry said he liked Bush, that has always bothered me
I hate Bush, I want someone to run for office that hates him too. This is why I defend Nader, he doesn't mix with the evil.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:33 AM
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7. I Am Civil To Bushies
but that is all. I have no respect for them. They normally voted for Bush because we are in a war. The GD fking idiots.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:39 AM
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10. Why be civil?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:38 AM
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9. Direct them here. I made a list of activist groups
Of course it is obvious we are active with DFA, but others are good as well. We just like working with the local candidates through the country. The idea is so great.

There are many indications that the progressive/liberal groups within the party are getting very involved. I am seeing now that the progressive label for all intents and purposes stands for "change" from the rightward swing of the party. It is an attempt to get us back to what we once were, not so beholden to corporations and big business. As Conason mentions in his new article at Salon today, they are working together to get Kerry elected right now. However, they will continue in new ways after November.

A quote and link to Conason's article:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/07/30/john_kerry/index.html
SNIP...."At the Royal Sonesta, meanwhile, the labor, minority and community organizations gathered behind the banner of the Campaign for America's Future and Progressive Majority, were laying their own plans. They too were looking beyond November as they talked about recruiting a new generation of candidates and building grass-roots pressure on a prospective Kerry administration to carry out the candidate's progressive promises -- and go further. Their model might be the Christian Coalition, which used modern campaign techniques a decade ago to build a grass-roots right-wing movement at the base of the Republican Party, and won substantial influence over the GOP in the process. "Take Back America," the title of CAF's conference at the Royal Sonesta, could just as easily have been the slogan of the religious right a decade ago. " END SNIP

For now, the differences between the donors at the Four Seasons and the organizers at the Royal Sonesta matter far less than their shared goal of ousting the Bush administration.

Here are a few I have compiled, all a little different in purpose, but many supporting the same candidates and ideals.

Take Back America
http://www.ourfuture.org/projects/convention/index.cfm

A group, founded by Howard Dean, supporting various local candidates who share the values of the progressive movement:
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/
And the blog and other links:
http://www.blogforamerica.com/

And the congressional leaders at the Progressive Majority:
http://www.progressivemajority.org/leadership/index.asp
Home Page
http://www.progressivemajority.org/

And the group that is connected to many Kucinich supporters, and at which I see various DFA groups signing up:
http://www.pdamerica.org/sponsors.php

This was an interesting paragraph from a comment at the blog:
SNIP..."Dean talked at a number of events about joining with like-minded groups. He even hugged Dennis Kucinich at an event yesterday! I think "we're all in this together" no longer applies to just Dean people. DFA is actively joining with other progressive groups, and so should we...."END SNIP




















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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:44 AM
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11. Bookmarked....
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:45 AM
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16. The problem I see with this is that we can't win with 10 organizations
each riding off in a different direction for the next four years. Can't they, for once, merge into ONE huge org to replace the DLC, and work together to clean up this mess? We would have ONE place to send money to, ONE place to send letters to, and ONE place to volunteer for. The ONE organization should open the debate on, say, what to do about BBV -- decide, with our input and expert input -- what to do, and DO IT. Same on every other issue. Decide to buy and fund a 24-hour national news station even catchier than Fox, and DO IT. Decide to find and fund a dem candidate for EVERY local election in the country, and DO IT. The local Dem offices aren't doing the job -- our repub asshole state senator Cantor had only an independent running against him. The I had no money, no signs, and he still got almost 30% of the vote.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:37 AM
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17. That IS what DFA is doing. You need to check it out.
Dean's group targets grassroots races even at local level, and then we donate to them, volunteer for them if possible. It is new, but look at the race Morrison gave DeLay. Delay has not campaigned in years, but he did this time.

The group now is growing, just over the last few days. Dean had a conference call with the meet-ups, and he is determined to keep taking the party away from the DLC.

www.blogforamerica.com
www.democracyforamerica.com
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:46 AM
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12. Here's an action to take which will perhaps yield some results...
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shindig Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:13 AM
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14. those kids in boulder
ROCK!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:56 AM
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15. "Democratic leadership" is an oxymoron . . . n/t
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