If JESUS Himself was on the Dem ticket Lt AWOL would STILL have won..

Don't you people get it yet? This election was over before a single vote had been cast. We did EVERYTHING right. EVERYTHING. We mobilized our base, we energized the youth, we got our message out, we had a candidate that was streets ahead of the other guy in EVERY aspect, a candidate that ran circles around his opponent in three straight debates, we had a platform that was clear, concise and offered a new positive vision for America and the world and we still lost.

Why?

It had nothing to do with the gay marriage debate or with "moral values", those are simplistic strawmen devised to confuse or deflect attention. The reason we lost is because this was rigged. From beginning to end, it was rigged. Take a look at the nasty little 'discrepancies', or 'anomolies' that are slowly bubbling to the surface about electronic voting. Take a look at the graphs being shown in this forum displaying the amazing accuracy of exit polls to actual vote tallies when PAPER ballots were used, but the amazing INACCURACIES of exit polls to actual vote tallies when ELECTRONIC ballots were used.

The corporate owned media and their pollsters skewed the race to make it look like it was neck-and-neck. Sure it was, as long as you asked more REPUBLICAN voters than Democrats their opinions. The only way this was EVER going to work was if the corporate media was in on the deal. If the corporate media showed you what people REALLY thought the polls would have shown Senator Kerry with a comfortable lead, anywhere from 5 to 9 points ahead and anyone with half a brain knows that if you are going to fix something it had better LOOK like it was real. Would the American public seriously believe that bush could come back from a 9 point deficit the weekend before the election and win it all? I think not. Some folks may like the Rocky movies but they know that what they are watching isn't real. People are much more likely to swallow what happened if they were constantly told beforehand that it was a tight race. And that is exactly what happened.

We knew that the win was ours. A higher voter turnout almost ALWAYS favours the Democrats. We signed up hundreds of thousands of new voters across the country. Motivated, pissed off people, ready, willing and able to go and vote, and to get others to vote.

And still we lost.

Einstein was quoted as saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Until we expose the widespread electronic voter fraud that occurred, and until we DEMAND a paper printout to enable ACCURATE recounts we can expect more of the same. As Mike Malloy said, unless we use paper ballots the elections in '06 won't mean squat. We will get the same result. Maybe worse. I shudder when I think about a fillibuster-proof republican majority in the Senate...

And for those of you that wish to dismiss this post as being the wild ravings of a highly pissed-off Democrat and that we should just re-tool the DNC to make it more "palatable" to the red states, or if you think my tin-foil hat is on a little too tight, or that voter fraud is just a denial mechanism enabling me to try and cope with Tuesday's result, answer me this one simple question...

Why is it that in all of the instances of computer "mal-functions" we know of to date, NONE of the "mal-functions" went in Senator Kerry's favour? Not one.

Still don't think it was rigged?

for the last 3 days.

Thank god -- Randi Rhodes, S&J, Mike Malloy, Mike Webb etc -- are saying the same thing.

And unless we get rid of the black boxes -- there is no way in hell we will get our guy in the white house in 08. Also we will lose just enough Senators in 06 to give the GOP a filibuster proof Senate.

But we are going to have to repeat this EVERY SINGLE DAY -- SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.

Jesus would have been portrayed as an out-of-touch weakling who hung around hookers.

Had this election been fair, we would have won in a landslide. You know, I can COMPLETELY accept (although it would still make me angry, I could accept) that more people wanted the other guy over mine. What I can't accept is the cheating.

Our anger needs to be directed at getting paper trails.

that he would win. He seemed so sure of it. How did he know?

Anyway, I read that * 'won't be all-powerful this term. He is restricted in what he can do at home by his own colossal budget deficit, and his party falls short of the 60 votes neeed to block a Democrat filibuster to prevent passage of bills--or Supreme Court appointments.'

we know that,

Add to the list of people raising hell Ray Taliafero...

Now we need to raise hell becuse the only power we have is the ballot, ALL our freedoms come from it. It goes, we loose our freedoms

THis is what is at stake

By the way this is the way I like to put it

Does not matter if we ran Dennis Kucinich or Atila the Hun... the fix was in

and his long hair sends the wrong image, too hippie, possibly even gender bender, which is dangerously close to gay...

:evilgrin: /sarcasm

yeah, i get ya, it's something that needed to be said a lot sooner too. all this fingerpointing is laughable. we know where the evil is, and it's not within our efforts.

kick.

Folks please take a look at this...for any BBV doubters ask yourself the question...