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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:33 AM
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Anyone know what kind of "education reform" chimp is talking about?
I can only imagine. I'm a teacher and I can only imagine how much he wants to screw teachers.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:35 AM
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1. Vouchers, vouchers and more vouchers
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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:36 AM
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2. If that's the case, teachers will leave in droves.
No teacher I have ever met is for vouchers.

I guess the next step is mandatory religion class.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:40 AM
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3. They are calling it, "intelligent design" in Kansas
Teachers are already leaving.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:12 AM
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21. what do you mean by "intelligent design" (in Kansas)?
I too am involved in education and am interested in your comment.
Thanks,
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:22 AM
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26. Creationism, in Kansas they are calling it 'intelligent design'
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:40 AM
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4. That is when I quit my job and homeschool my son.
No offense to the teachers, but I want NO one teaching my son religion and thwarting it into something crazy like about 1/2 of our population sees it.
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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:43 AM
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6. I'm in Pa, so maybe Rendell can save our ass.
There is not one friggin thing I agree with this fool on. I am disgusted.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:45 AM
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8. The good news is that Chimpy
has proposed this school voucher shit every year since he took office, and even with a Republican majority, he hasn't been able to get it pushed through, except for a small "Demonstration" program in DC (which made news yesterday for having serious problems). I've been researching his proposals for work this week, and this is what I've gathered he wants to do:

1) Give priority funding consideration to early childhood programs in states that have a coordinated early childhood plan involving Head Start, pre-K and other childcare services programs.

Translation: This is where I think the "faith-based" bullshit comes in at. It's also another way to underfund Head Start.

2) He's proposing a $200 million program for struggling readers in middle & high school called "Striving Readers". This will be a federal grants program similar to Reading First but administered by the Feds.

Translation: Can't really see any downside to this one.

3) Establish a $200 million fund for states to encourage schools to develpo performance plans for entering high school students.

Translation: A get-rick quick scheme for *'s buddies who own computer technology and software companies--the idea is that teachers would test students using computer software which would then given them "prescriptions" on the student's learning problems/trouble areas and recommend strategies to improve these problem areas.

Translation: Uhm---isn't this what teachers have always been supposed to do--test and find out what students aren't getting and adjust their teaching strategies accordingly?????

4) Create an ELearning Clearinghouse of online courses available to students and adults.

Translation: I think (and I could be wrong) that this will make it easier for "home schoolers" to find course content available via the internet.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:01 AM
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15. Bush agenda-extending the basic elementary NCLB to the high schools
Also, when Tommy Thompson was our Gov. he put in place the voucher progaram in Milwaukee.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:42 AM
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5. Teaching chilren about a relationship between a man & woman
The man will make love to the woman only to have a baby and then they shall live without touching each other til death do them part.
Pray for King George
Pray for Queen Laura
Pray for the princess brats.
When you graduate you will learn to kill.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:45 AM
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7. Old joke
Q: What's the square root of 1738?

A: God's will.
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Rush1184 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:47 AM
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9. Don't get it.
Don't get it. (Politics and English major here)
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:51 AM
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12. Sorry
Should've done a setup -- it's a math quiz after fundies reform education, the optional always-correct answer to anything.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:47 AM
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10. To "correct history", perhaps?
Like: "Many years ago, our Forefathers left the Secular Humanistic Liberalism of decadent Yurop, to establish Xtianity in Gawd's Country". (Picture Jesus, with a chip on one shoulder and an assault rifle slung over the other).

pnorman (Paul Norman)
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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:49 AM
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11. I teach in Philly and it will be a cold day in hell...
Before I teach any sort of religion. They will have to have me removed before I do that crap.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:56 AM
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13. Re-education centers?
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 08:58 AM by kayell
More likely in the short term - vouchers, support of faith based education, trial relgious organization control of some public schools, limiting science curriculum, standardized rules on what can be taught in civics, history, social studies classes, requirements that creationism be taught as equally valid to evolution, mental health testing of all students and school personnel, loyalty oaths, goodby to cultural classes like art and music, ...

classes seperated by gender, the great revival of home ec classes,
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:58 AM
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14. My kid goes to school in
a suburb of Los Angeles and she's learning evolution in 6th grade social studies. Last week she learned that Neanderthal fossils indicate care and concern for the weakest among them - that Neanderthals had developed a social conscience. Either the repukes have devolved or they never made it out of the more primitive stages of the "Southern Apes" with heads the size of baseballs.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:10 AM
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20. caring
this is key--having a social conscious for those in trouble, weak, sick or just unable to care for themselves. I fear for these vulnerable people in the US in this Dark Time!!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:03 AM
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16. Kill public schools; herd kids into Xian Private $chools
What else is new?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:05 AM
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17. I read the target school do not work at all well.
What is going on with education? I never got it any how. The Red states have just bad school and the blue states have pretty good ratings. I wondered what was up when Bush said he was going to do for US school what he had done in Tx. Clinton.s school were bad also. Isn't this a local or state thing?
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dirtyduck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:09 AM
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18. Doing away with it all together
who needs it anyway? we have our faith!
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:09 AM
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19. Same as privatizing SS
He will attempt to dissolve public schools. He is already in the process of starving them and forcing them out. It will become more and more privatized, and they will get tax payer money to boot I bet. So we will be feeding the corporations so that they can make more money. Or feeding into the teaching of a religion that we do not believe in.

We can probably expect the same to happen to prisons. We can probably expect the same to happen to our National Parks , Monuments, Museums and Forests.



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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:13 AM
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22. Uh-Oh. Now it begins. I see visions of Hitler Youth with their arms
stretched out saluting their feuhrer. Next thing you know they will be expected to report all Democrats, including their parents.

This is the kind of education reform I expect from this asshole.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:15 AM
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23. assume = no public education = no teacher unions = disguised
as something else but those are the objectives
they want religious brainwash schools only
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:08 AM
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28. Yup that's what they want
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:16 AM
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24. In the South,
I see the further segregation of the races and of the classes. Already, the well-off white students attend church-schools or other private academies. The minority/poor-whites attend the public schools. So, eventually, the classes will be further seperated, and the "superior" people will continue along their path to control the "inferiors."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:32 AM
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25. Texas Sex-Ed Texts Barely Mention Contraceptives
"http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=8&u=/nm/20041106/ts_nm/health_texas_textbooks_dc"
Texas Sex-Ed Texts Barely Mention Contraceptives

Fri, Nov 05, 2004
By Jon Herskovitz
DALLAS (Reuters) - Texas education officials on Friday approved health textbooks for high school students that extol the virtues of sexual abstinence but only make passing mention of contraceptives, which critics say violates state regulations and endangers the health of teens.

The battle in Texas has national implications because the state is the second-biggest market for textbooks in the United States. Books approved by the state's school board are typically marketed nationally.......

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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:27 AM
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27. RE-Education
Prepare to have your children brainwashed.
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