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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:45 AM
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Red States are "Dumber" than Blue States- as if we didn't know
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 10:53 AM by npincus
http://attenuation.net/files/iq.htm

Here it is: a chart correlating the average IQ of each state with the candidate they selected: Bush or Kerry.

The author of the chart writes:

Wow, what can I say, in the past 24 hours over 540,000+ people have visited this page, and I will probably have to take it down soon due to bandwidth issues. I originally posted this to a few friends on a forum, using information from a list just like this creatd after the 2000 election. The list was carried by the St. Petersburg Times and the Economist, amongst others. The IQ data was originally attributed to the book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations", though I checked and couldn't find them in the current edition, I posted saying such at the bottom of the table. The tests and data were said to have been administered via the Raven's APT, and the The Test Agency, one of the UK's leading publishers and distributors of psychometric tests.

I have recently been emailed by someone claiming to have seen a retraction many issues later on the behalf of the Economist Magazine. The Economist could not independently verify the IQ data and the retraction can be found here. I have yet to find any other retractions from the St. Petersburg Times or other publications. Here you can find a report correlating IQ and income, and their relation to how people voted in the 2004 election. This IQ data is based on SAT/ACT test scores. Here you can see the correlation between percentage of college graduates in a state and who they voted for in the 2000 election.

I am glad that so many people are so interested in IQ, statistical correlations, and their relation to politics. I believe such correlations are increasingly interesting as some candidates this year funneled more money into biased advertising and partisan propaganda than has ever been attempted in the history of the world.



If anyone can post the whole chart on this thread, even better (I don't know how).
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:57 AM
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1. 85-point IQ?
Isn't that in the barely-functioning-idiot range?
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:58 AM
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2. Funny!
:evilgrin:
This will anger some people.

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:59 AM
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3. The cretins bring down the average for the smart ones (Kerry voters)
a minority in the dopey majority
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Tony_Illinois Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:06 AM
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4. Per Request . . .The IQ Chart Posted
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goju Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:09 AM
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5. Snopes debunked
http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/gop.asp

Turns out to be satire and creative statistics, not fact.

Im in a red state as are many other du'ers.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:13 AM
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6. I'm in ohio (soon to be blue?!) but that's still pretty funny!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:15 AM
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8. I 'm still holding fast that OH will go blue.
:hi:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:13 AM
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7. Of course its satire.
If it were true, Minnesota's ave IQ would be much higher. 102? geeze.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:23 AM
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9. I was emailed the same list w/average annual income included
I asked for the source but never got it so I didn't post it. Given the current climate, it doesn't even work as satire.
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