Kerry was from Mass. Dukakis was from n/e. where was Mondale from?

does this matter? if it does, will the DNC leadership ever learn?

ran for senate to take wellstone's seat after he passed...

mondale ran for senate in 2002 after wellstone passed away and lost to norm coleman

I think it was the only state he won but I'm not sure.

Please see my earlier post for more details. :)

and in a TWO WAY race without Perot, Clinton would have lost as well.

Stop buying Republican spin.

:)

I think deciding that the geography is all that matters is very silly. Being able to relate to a different geography is very important, but you can't tell me that just because a person is a southerner he is a better candidate.

but it makes at least as much sense as some of the crazy-ass theories that have been thrown around here for the last week.

and, i forgot to mention- kerry's running mate was from the waaaay south, so it may very well not be a factor at all.

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GO BACK TO MAKING CARTOONS.

i'm not saying that it was a deciding factor, i'm just thinking about it out loud. and, btw, i certainly hope you yelled that loud at people blaming gays/abortion/morality, because that's at least as crazy of a thought as the one in my original post. eh?

He just waged a bad campaign. He didn't start stumping till after Labor Day (!), and he made the fatal mistake of being honest about having to raise taxes to pay off Reagan's mountain of debt. The electoral map wasn't nearly representative of the actual election, as Mondale won about 40% of the vote...compare that to the map!

Don't forget, he also had a female vice-presidential running mate, which didn't set well with sexist pigs.

If only he'd gotten an earlier start, he could have done even better. As it was, given all this that was going against him, he got a damned decent chunk of the vote.

He and Geraldine Ferraro inspired me to be a volunteer, and after the campaign, I wrote a letter to tell him so. A few weeks later, I got a really nice letter back from him, which I've still got around here somewhere.

Much like 2004, the world wanted us to vote for Mondale because Reagan was such a nut job.

Mondale wasn't a poor candidate so much as a poor campaigner. Don't forget, he was on the winning Carter/Mondale ticket in 1976, it's just that the Reaganauts want us to remember him as a loser.

Don't let them color your image of him. Walter "Fritz" Mondale was a good man, and if Carter had taken more of his advice, he might have been re-elected.

"and in a TWO WAY race without Perot, Clinton would have lost as well."


Yes if Clinton didnt get any of the perot vote. But that isnt what wouldve happened. I saw a study done that looked at how perot voters voted for governors and senators and stuff. They voted pretty equally democrat and republican on those things. So theyd have gone pretty equally for president maybe with a slight advantage to bush.

Perot got 19%. If bush got 10% of that and clinton got 8% of it and the other 1% didnt vote then here wouldve been the election results.

Clinton - 50.93%
Bush - 47.38%

Similiar to this election.

However Clinton wouldve fared even better in the electoral college than this popular vote count shows.

There's nothing he could do about that. Dukakis was a midget. Nothing he could do about that.

On the other hand, a not-bad-looking man nearly half a foot taller than his repulsive opponent lost the other day. Which just goes to show that Diebold machines do not vote based on appearances.

Both Kerry and Dukakis are from Mass.
JFK, Adams etc were from Mass.

and i am not, repeat NOT, saying this was why we got phuct. it was just another reason i thought of. read my above posts.

Get a ticket and climb on board! I have news for you, Massachusetts is not the only state the right intends to demonize. Listen to them talk about "Heartland values". That means red states.

constant polls. Do you work for Frank Luntz?

i'd be interested to know. discussing the geographic location is no more flamebaiting than anything else done here since the election, by a number of prominent DUers.

...and what on earth do my polls have to do with anything? which one offended you, exactly?

I donated to Dennis Kucinich because I agree with him, and to John Edwards and Wesley Clark because I consider them electable.

Only after John Kerry practically won the nomination did I donate to him.