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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:44 PM
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Frederick Douglass weighs in on Christian Right 2004 Election Vote
"I love the pure, peaceable, and impartial
Christianity of Christ: I therefore hate the corrupt,
slaveholding, women-whipping, cradle-plundering,
partial and hypocritical Christianity of this land.
Indeed, I can see no reason, but the most deceitful
one, for calling the religion of this land
Christianity. I look upon it as the climax of all
misnomers, the boldest of all frauds, and the grossest
of all libels. Never was there a clearer sense of
`stealing the livery of the court of heaven to serve
the devil in.' I am filled with unutterable loathing
when I contemplate the religious pomp and show,
together with the horrible inconsistencies, which
everywhere surround me."

Frederick Douglass
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:46 PM
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1. Ah, yes indeed
MORE of this kind of language, please
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:57 PM
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3. Yeah, I thought it was appropriate, but sadly shows how little has changed
Apparently, some are still suffering from the ancestral memes of our Puritanical bretheren...

JB
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:36 PM
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10. Wellll....

Christianity IS an obsolete and silly Middle Eastern death cult, but some of its literature did at least contain some passages that talk about being nice to people. I suspect that's what this guy misses.

Jesus has left his Dad's right hand and has wandered off into the wilderness in disgust, I reckon, to play pool with Apollo, Buddha and Krishna and other "nice" gods. Wouldn't blame him.

It would be nice if we could replace all this nasty, overstructured, clunky spirituality with something a bit more human, but these things don't change overnight.

I do think that other Christians will listen to this sort of language and maybe change their minds a bit... Mind you, changing even a very wibbly moderate Christian's mind is a lot like banging a sledgehammer against a five mile high iron door for a hundred years. I should know, I used to be one... shudder...
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:54 PM
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2. Beautiful.
Here's another one I like:

"The Bible is the greatest hoax in all history. The leading characters of the Old Testament would today be in the penitentiary and those of the New would be under observation in psychopathic wards."
-- Charles Smith (1887-1964) U.S. attorney, author
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:00 PM
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4. Well... b-b-b-but the constitution writers say...
Thomas Jefferson: "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites."
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:05 PM
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6. Shhh...or they'll try to kick him off the nickel.
I knew I loved Jefferson for a good reason.

JB
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:03 PM
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5. Greatness
Frederick Douglass may be the greatest American to have ever lived.
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:09 PM
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7. Is that from his Slave Narrative?
And which one? I think he wrote maybe 2-3? His first one?
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:27 PM
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8. I believe the 1st, but I'm not certain...it was taken from a sig file
It's been in my quotations sig file for a couple of years and long divorced from the original source.

JB
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:31 PM
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9. also read this quote from Thomas Jefferson:
"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."

posted here the other day by Elizabeth Edwards

Msongs
Riverside Ca



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