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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:49 PM
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Holy shit, read this and please tell me these numbers aren't correct
Florida Department of State
Division of Elections
November 2, 2004 General

http://enight.dos.state.fl.us

Kerry / Edwards
3,572,938

Bush / Cheney
3,953,890

Peroutka / Baldwin
6,600

Badnarik / Campagna
11,974

Cobb / LaMarche
3,907

Harris / Trowe
2,732

Brown / Herbert
3,501

Nader / Camejo
32,880
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:51 PM
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1. OK, I'll bite, they're not correct.
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 03:51 PM by LosinIt
does that make you happy?
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:53 PM
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3. how many of those fillers I bet are Kerry numbers?
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:56 PM
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7. explain?
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:57 PM
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9. we saw it happen in another county
I believe it was Ohio were Cobb wasn't suppose to be on. The computer glitched and gave numbers that were Kerry to other fillers.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:03 PM
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12. Maybe I'm slow....
I still don't get it. :shrug:
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:24 PM
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18. You're not slow.
The original poster seems to be unaware that several third party candidates often run in presidential elections and get a few votes.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:51 PM
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2. those numbers aren't correct
I don't actually know that, but you told me to tell you that :crazy:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:54 PM
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4. Ummmm....
What point were you trying to make?

These are just numbers.

Nothing whatsoever to say anything about if they are right or wrong...

They might be fraudulent numbers, but you cannot support that position by just the bald repeating of the official vote counts.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:56 PM
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8. What if those are computer glitchs with all those other peoples numbers?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:08 PM
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14. You mean the third parties?
Yeah, they might be, but I doubt it. They seem right in line with third party voting trends.

In any case, even if all added and put in our column, we don't win it.

The real fraud is in the moving of Democratic votes to the GOP column.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:25 PM
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19. but remember Nadernites weren't going to vote for Nader
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:27 PM
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20. Perhaps...
What did the exit polling show on Nader.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:54 PM
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5. they're not correct
I hope we can find the correct numbers in the coming days!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:54 PM
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6. That is a big speculative leap.
n/t
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:58 PM
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10. Well the Bush and Kerry numbers are
likely wrong, based on some of the evidence we have seen, now we got to get to proving it.

However, the other numbers seem pretty believable to me. Which ones do you question. That's the whole state there, and so Naders number looks as expected. He got something like 97K votes last time.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:02 PM
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11. How did all the no names though that you never heard of get that many
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 04:03 PM by AIndependentTexan
votes? I've never heard of some of those names. Yet they have over 1,000 votes.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:04 PM
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13. Those are the socialist parties!
Looks okay to me.
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:09 PM
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15. Socialist, Green, Libertarians
Same names every time.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:18 PM
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16. And Kerry lost by 380,000 votes.
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 04:18 PM by TwilightZone
I must be missing the point. Even if every, single other vote is for Kerry (which, of course, they're not), Kerry is still waaaay behind Bush. We're going to need votes from the Bush column. A lot of 'em.

Just because you've never heard of some of these people doesn't mean that they weren't on the ballot and received votes.
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zmdem Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:19 PM
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17. They're not "no-names"
They're third party candidates and the total votes they got was about 1%, about what would be expected.

Peroutka - Constitution Party
Badnarik - Libertarian Party
Cobb - Green Party
Harris - ?
Brown - A socialist party, not sure which one
Nader - Independent candidate

Note that even if all their votes went to Kerry, not even close to changing the results. Anyway no Peroutka vote would have gone to Kerry, the Badnarik vote would have split. Presumably the Cobb, Brown and Nader votes would have gone Kerry.
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