Marines: "Toll expected to rival Vietnam War"

From the Houston Chronicle:

Marines say the toll is expected to rival those seen in Vietnam War

WITH U.S. FORCES NEAR FALLUJAH, IRAQ - The number of dead and wounded from the expected battle to retake insurgent-controlled Fallujah probably will reach levels not seen since Vietnam, a senior surgeon at the Marine camp outside Fallujah said Thursday.

Navy Cmdr. Lach Noyes said the camp's hospital is preparing to handle 25 severely injured soldiers a day, not counting walking wounded and the dead.

The hospital has added two operating rooms, doubled its supplies, added a mortuary and stocked up on blood reserves. Doctors have set up a system of ambulance vehicles that will rush to the camp's gate to receive the dead and wounded so units can return to battle quickly.

The plans underscore the ferocity of the fight the U.S. military expects in Fallujah, a Sunni Muslim city about 35 miles west of Baghdad, which has been under insurgent control since April.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/2885271

is saddam in there?

along with WMDs.

instead of BBV.

Even a lot of top military brass are asking the same question, according to Sy Hersch.

the occupation. Much like San Francisco.

(Excuse my inappropriate humour. It's an involuntary impulse during stressful times. Much like peeing when I sneeze. See? I did it again. Very stressed out.)

Bottled up nicely in artillery, bombs and depleted uranium shells.

?????

Dear Leader finally has his man date. He can do whatever he wants. I'm going to be sick.

Poland.

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such as false claims of imminent threats from WMD, misrepresentations tht Iraq was somehow tied to 9/11, flat-out lies that Iraq was closely linked with OBL.

The only reason I said two and not one is you asked about being a "mass" murderer.

Bush is a murderer and a mass murderer.

it was one. :(

The answer is blowin' in the wind.....

But I know this can't be so, the talking heads all told me that comparing Iraq to Vietnam is NOT appropriate.

explosives are. I fear they will used on the troops. :scared:

of Al Qaqaa, they were understaffed but I suppose that doesn't matter, does it, media? The Chimp has his man date.

and he does not have a mandate either. We should not let him claim that but Clinton and other Dementcrats are trying to do all they can to help him make that claim. Now has he had a man date well that is another story but more than likely true.

Call me cold, callous. But, too f'in bad. They asked for *, these are the consequences. NO WHINING! :nopity:

My understanding is some of the military vote has yet to be counted.

It's not that your post is cold. It's that it's not fact-based. Many soldiers are against GWBush.

Welcome to DU.

and we get nothing but a bitter feeling in our hearts for being right. We protested the war and said "Give inspectors more time". We protested the war and said, "Not another Vietnam". We said Bush reelection will be even more hatefulness toward foreigners. More death of innocents.

I'm going to be sick.

go watch "Full Metal Jacket" It's all about the Battle of Hue.

said there wouldn't be any causalities. :mad: :grr:

Have you seen any pix from Dover? Has the media mentioned any wounded or dead soldiers by name?

See, there aren't. What's the matter with you? Why do you hate America so much?

This would be funny if it weren't so goddamned TRUE! AIEEEEEE.

All you evil monster supporters just keep believing that! :grr: :mad:

There's no comfort in being right.

http://www.harpers.org/BaghdadYearZero.html

SNIP..."Iraq was going to change all that. In one place on Earth, the theory would finally be put into practice in its most perfect and uncompromised form. A country of 25 million would not be rebuilt as it was before the war; it would be erased, disappeared. In its place would spring forth a gleaming showroom for laissez-faire economics, a utopia such as the world had never seen. Every policy that liberates multinational corporations to pursue their quest for profit would be put into place: a shrunken state, a flexible workforce, open borders, minimal taxes, no tariffs, no ownership restrictions. The people of Iraq would, of course, have to endure some short-term pain: assets, previously owned by the state, would have to be given up to create new opportunities for growth and investment. Jobs would have to be lost and, as foreign products flooded across the border, local businesses and family farms would, unfortunately, be unable to compete. But to the authors of this plan, these would be small prices to pay for the economic boom that would surely explode once the proper conditions were in place, a boom so powerful the country would practically rebuild itself.

The fact that the boom never came and Iraq continues to tremble under explosions of a very different sort should never be blamed on the absence of a plan. Rather, the blame rests with the plan itself, and the extraordinarily violent ideology upon which it is based..."

gay marriage.

Right America?

... if Kerry lost the race. Someone should have warned them.

They just didn't feel they could do it before the election.

Even if Kerry had won, it would have been a little present to him.

That's what made it so tough for Kerry to outline a plan that was different that Bush's. It was a mess and there isn't any way out.

n/t

Or so in Vietnam?

There were individual battles where 100s were killed. And a long period of 100s dead per week.

Since Vietnam, American forces haven't been in a fight with a roughly equal force.

Jeez...

So when the toll is "only" 20,000 in four years, we can all breath a sigh of relief.