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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:40 PM
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Fallujah postponed?
Watching CNN International it was just said that one of the Iraqi commanders who had been given a complete briefing on the plan of attack in Fallujah is missing. It's feared he may be telling the Fallujans the war plan.

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:41 PM
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1. Earlier, it was reported that he deserted.
n/t
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:41 PM
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2. if that's true
then this thing is falling apart at the seems
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:41 PM
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3. Wow. Thank GOD we re-elected Bush
otherwise we might have been able to do this right... and we can't have that: we need to stay the course!
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:58 PM
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8. I am glad we are not doing this right ... I can't stand that we are
on the verge of killing 1000's more Iraq's and 100's more our soldiers..
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:42 PM
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4. Can you say Clusterflop?
Probably in Iran reporting in!
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LMG Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:47 PM
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5. hard work
This is hard work getting this right bet he worked on saturday
you know its hard work
when the Iraq general left he must have taken the carry out menu
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:50 PM
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6. Iraqi officer deserts with Fallujah battle plans (Reuters)
Iraqi officer deserts with Fallujah battle plans
An Iraqi military commander has deserted US forces hours after he received a full briefing on US military plans to storm the rebel-held city of Fallujah, CNN has reported.

The pool report sent to Reuters and other media from a US marine unit quoted US officers as saying the desertion of the unidentified captain, a Kurdish company commander, would not change plans to retake the city before elections scheduled for January 27.

They said they believe the officer, who commanded 160 Iraqi soldiers training with US marines at a base on the outskirts of Fallujah, was not likely to hand over battle plans to rebels in the Sunni Muslim city.

The officer disappeared on Friday morning, one day after US marine officers gave him a full briefing on the battle plans. US officers found his uniform and automatic rifles on his bed.

"This man has no known ties with Fallujah and they (the US military) don't believe in the first instance that he is headed for Fallujah. They believe that since the captain is a Kurd, he is more likely headed up north and going home," the report said.

"It is significant that he disappeared the morning after he had a full and detailed brief on the full battle plan for the assault on Fallujah," it added.

US officers said Iraqi forces, who include former Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and former members of Saddam's Iraqi army, were among Iraqi troops training with US Marines preparing to storm Fallujah.

Kurds were allies of the United States in last year's war that ousted Saddam Hussein.

US forces say they are awaiting a signal from Iraq's interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi and US President George W Bush to attack the city, where an estimated 1,000 to 6,000 Saddam loyalists and Arab supporters of Zarqawi are dug in.

Fallujah had a population of 300,000 before the US-led invasion of Iraq and an unknown number remain in the city.

US forces expect the Fallujah battle to be the toughest that US Marines face since the Vietnam war.

Analysts expect capturing the city will involve street fighting which can extract a high death toll from non-combatants.

-Reuters
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:01 PM
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16. TOTAL GOAT FUCK. n/t
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Fatima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:51 PM
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7. Fear not, they will figure out a way to kill more of us "filthy ragheads"
George never fails and sadly, the Democratic so-called outrage failed to stop him.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:02 PM
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9. Interesting that it was a Kurdish officer.
Are the Kurds now supporting the insurgency?
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:08 PM
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10. It is possible (because I am not completely cynical)
that he found the plan to be morally repugnant.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:24 PM
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11. I had not thought of that possibility, but it would not surprise me. n/t
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:34 PM
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12. That explanation makes no sense whatsoever
Why tip off the Americans by deserting? Then they would know he was a mole and change the battle plans. It's stupid and doesn't make any sense. He would stay undercover and deliver the plans without raising any suspicion if that was his motive.

My guess is:

1)He's been kidnapped or killed

2)He's being blackmailed or one of his family has been kidnapped, which happens to ordinary Iraqis all the time, and this particular Iraqi is on a hit list, no? Perfect way for the insurgents to take him out of the picture.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:37 PM
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13. Well, this is what they said, then they clarified that he
was a Kurd. News never gets breaking news right the first time around.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:40 PM
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14. I'm not doubting what they said
I just don't think it makes any sense, heh.

Not that anything over there does.

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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 06:54 PM
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15. Perhaps he's concerned about problems in the Kurdish area.
I believe that it was reported last week that the Turks threatened to move into Iraqi Kurdistan if the Kurds took Kirkuk. There was no statement from the U.S. warning the Turks to stay home, which was undoubtedly a disappointment to the Kurds.

In additional Kurd news, there are reports of Kurdish insurgents active inside Turkey once again. I would expect that Kurdish affairs are more important than Iraqi affairs to a Kurd.

Either that, or the Kurds are aligning with the Sunni Arabs (I believe that the Kurds are Sunni) against the Shia. Perhaps the Sunnis promised the Kurds autonomy in a confederation composed of Sunni Arab and Kurd, so long as the Kurds shared a little oil $ with the Sunnis.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:03 PM
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17. I doubt they'd postpone it.
They've spent weeks getting ready, no sense postponing Bush's victory party just because a bunch of extra US troops are going to get killed.
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