Was the election stolen?

I personally think that it wasn't, but it should be investigated. Also, I think that the very worst thing is that with BBV, we have no way of knowing if fraud occured. So even if this election was legitimate, we will never know and we'll never know about any election from now until eternity.

what goes around comes around and shit comes out in the wash sooner or later. Jesus Bush's day is coming, he can't or won't be slick forever!

unless we go back to paper ballots or issue vote receipts!

the only group to challenge Diebold here in Court

I say yes, if embezzled...Idiot right won't accept stolen ever.

given Kerry the number he needed to win, I have to conclude that it was at the very least obtained dishonestly.

Give to www.blackboxvoting.org . Listen to Air America Radio (especially Randi Rhodes). Spread the word.

Here's how. Look at the results in the two tables found at this page: http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

Note that, this time, the election was stolen not by manipulation of touch screen machines (as appears to be the case in Georgia in 2002), but in optical scanner counties.

Look at the touch screen counties: Increased turnout is evident in most counties, and the vote is proportionate to Republican-Democrat registrations. The 820,000 new votes (votes over expected) run 410,491 Republican, and 414,913 Democrat. This would be the voting of independents assuming 100% of Repubs and Democrats vote their party and turnout is equal across all three, Repubs, Democrats, and independents alike. A tight race, no surprises there.

Now look at the optical scanner counties: In this case, swings to Republican votes happen in huge percentages in county after county to the point where up to 100% of the independent voters and up to 50% of the Democratic voters would have had to vote Republican to yield the observed numbers.

Some sample counties ("expected vote" refers to the proportion based on 100% fidelity to party by Repubs and Democrats and at the evenly proportioned turnout at the observed percentage):

* Union: actuals (3,396 Republican, 1,251 Democrat); registration (18.3% R, 75.5% D); 66.2% turnout; expected vote (855 R, 3,529 D).

* Escambia: actuals (93,311 R, 48,207 D); registration (43.8% R, 40.7% D); 75.3% turnout; expected vote (62,602 R, 58,149 D).

* Jackson: actuals (12,092 R, 7,529 D); registration (22.0% R, 71.5% D); 72.8% turnout; expected vote (4,339 R, 14,127 D).

The 626,221 independent votes in optical scanner counties went 612,971 Republican and 13,250 Democratic -- in other words, the voter surge went 45-to-1 Republican!!! Possible? Yes. Probable? Absolutely not!

Moreover, the Republican vote in these counties totals 1,950,213 while there were only 1,841,873 registered Republicans! Even if there was 100% turnout, then still there are 148,000 more Republican votes than there are registered Republicans!!!

Given these observations, and coupled with the exit polling anamolies and known attempts at voter suppression, there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that we are looking at a stolen election.

Read this important article and this one as well!

Seriously, I see no way to change the results. We got our asses kicked fair and square.

:shrug:

I will not don a :tinfoilhat:

check out all the info about voting fraud we have uncovered.