In 8 southern states John Kerry received at least 40% of the

vote.

Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia.


If Kerry had campaigned in these states, do you think he would have done better.

I might be wrong, but I find it somewhat amazing that Kerry did not even campaign in Georgia, and South Carolina, and he still got 41%

If he had treated these states like Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, could he have received the other 9% and won these and other states in the south?

I'm just wondering.

George Bush didn't campaign there either. But you're right, 40% is not bad. 10% is less than most people realize. It's only one in ten people! Only one in ten people more voted for Bush in Louisiana than in New Hampshire.

If he'd campaigned on values the south relates to, in addition to hatin' them man dates. In a normal world, where the media reports the truth about an idiot shrub and a national treasure; well hell yes. We do need to remember that 40% of the red staters are more desperate than us blue staters are.

them out to the corporate whores. most of who own mansions in various blue states and in the hated europe like paris. imagine if these people knew the lifestyles of the corporate executives.

You really think he had a chance in God-Guns-n-Gays-land?

And doesn't look like he lost FL either. But don't take my word for it, have a look at some of these:

Kerry Margins: Paper-ballot and Non-paper ballot states... (by TrutIsAll)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2612492

Take a look at these interesting numbers...... (FL)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2623514
Chart Links:


**WEIRD FL NUMBERS - BRAND NEW**
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x23860#24284
Link to file: http://www.rubberbug.com/temp/FloridaDifferences.htm

27 Florida Counties with superior Democratic Registration vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2624415

New statistics on Florida fraud - please share (Faun Otter)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27702

Here we Go, Florida Democrat (Candidate) Goes to the FBI
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2620704
HOT!! Florida U.S. House Rep. says he has evidence of hacked voting.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27340

Graph of Florida by County by Voting Machine - Change from 2000 to 2004
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2615219&mesg_id=2615219

Denial, Anger, Action
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2619207&mesg_id=2619207

Calling all DUers - My husband is a Ph.D. statistician and
(see esp. post #17)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=26421#
DU Home Page (w/Graphs mentioned in opening post of thread): http://www.democraticunderground.com/ or see this thread:

The Exit Polls vs. the Actuals: Who do you believe-CNN or your lying eyes?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2617461

Exit polls analysis versus reported vote count (by Faun Otter)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=11874&mesg_id=11874

In this thread we post all the evidence of vote fraud.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1333866

New tabulation of voting methods, vendors by population in state.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2617492

Still don't believe they stole it? Look here (by tkmorris)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1333746
table link: http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

Have Hard Vote Fraud Evidence!? - RESPOND HERE PLZ
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1624#1759

A Whole Forum of Various Voting Problems:
Report Voting Problems
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=201
Including: According to Florida voter data this election was stolen. PERIOD
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1274
and: Hillsborough County FLA - oddities + undervotes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1214


Voter fraud claims are bull
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2621252

The stage is set to ban "Exit Polls" in the future. So there will be no
way to ID suspicious results. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2625382

ES&S "Former Employee" accessed rural OH BOE Computer in Oct.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27251

Did ANY votes accidentally go to Kerry?
(none that anyone can find)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x26471

A single hacker could have fixed the election.
(slashdot link, where computer programmers hang out)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1636

Voter News Service (VNS)
The news networks don't just report election news, they create it. But do they also conspire to control election results?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1333866&mesg_id=1334804&page=

SAME COUNTIES FRAUD 2000/2004
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2625077

He might have done better in those Southern States if the FRAUD had not occurred. FRAUD is certainly evident in North Carolina if you compare the exit polls with the actual count.

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But I don't think Kerry lost in NC ... NC was called way too early . Ok I will hush now . My grandmother worked at the Board of Elections in 2000 and Tuesday night as well - again NC was called for Bush and in my county ( Guilford County NC along with Wake and several counties across NC ) the votes were not officially in . Again I said :wtf: to this whole election . Sigh ...

If they are, he did just fine. The machines ate his votes.

Southerners aren't stupid, although people like to pretend they are.

Bush got a least 40% of the vote.

But he likely won by a larger margin, God knows, than the recorded vote. remember to research and figure that in. If Bush padded in New Hampshire and cheated and intimidated in Georgia he stole votes everywhere.

With a fair election Kerry would have picked up some. With a real and fair media(Both qualifications missing now) he would have swept.

The "contest" is not democratic. It is as Hunter Thompson describes it and worse, a comical obscenity. The mandate is based on multi- level fraud in many sectors. It was not well opposed. These little parsings are only valuable toward the goal of FORCING out fraud by any civil means at our disposal.

This could of would have about campaigning more or differently are irrelevant for now.

In my home county, it was 47/53.

country wide battle, not just a 17 state one. make the repugs come down to the south and hold their own territory. if they want to run in the blue states we should include the red (at least some anyway). hell, 10% isn't much at all and with the right candidate we could really see some change i believe. imagine what it would feel like if your state was ignored cycle after cycle and then a candidate comes with an inspiring vision. first one there gets the votes!